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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Wang, Wei W" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	"quintela@redhat.com" <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhong, Yang" <yang.zhong@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, "Christopherson,,
	Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Zeng, Guang" <guang.zeng@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [patch 5/6] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xcr0/xfd()
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 09:59:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB52761B401F752514B22A23768C779@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsqslwph.ffs@tglx>

> From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> 
> On Thu, Dec 16 2021 at 01:04, Kevin Tian wrote:
> >> From: Paolo Bonzini <paolo.bonzini@gmail.com> On Behalf Of Paolo
> Bonzini
> >> Considering that in practice all Linux guests with AMX would have XFD
> >> passthrough (because if there's no prctl, Linux keeps AMX disabled in
> >> XFD), this removes the need to do all the #NM handling too.  Just make
> >
> > #NM trap is for XFD_ERR thus still required.
> >
> >> XFD passthrough if it can ever be set to a nonzero value.  This costs an
> >> RDMSR per vmexit even if neither the host nor the guest ever use AMX.
> >
> > Well, we can still trap WRMSR(XFD) in the start and then disable
> interception
> > after the 1st trap.
> 
> If we go for buffer expansion at vcpu_create() or CPUID2 then I think
> you don't need a trap at all.
> 
> XFD_ERR:  Always 0 on the host. Guest state needs to be preserved on
>           VMEXIT and restored on VMENTER
> 
> This can be done simply with the MSR entry/exit controls. No trap
> required neither for #NM for for XFD_ERR.
> 
> VMENTER loads guest state. VMEXIT saves guest state and loads host state
> (0)

This implies three MSR operations for every vm-exit.

With trap we only need one RDMSR in host #NM handler, one 
RDMSR/one WRMSR exit in guest #NM handler, which are both rare.
plus one RDMSR/one WRMSR per vm-exit only if saved xfd_err is 
non-zero which is again rare.

> 
> XFD:     Always guest state
> 
> So VMENTER does nothing and VMEXIT either saves guest state and the sync
> function uses the automatically saved value or you keep the sync
> function which does the rdmsrl() as is.
> 

Yes, this is the 3rd open that I asked in another reply. The only restriction
with this approach is that the sync cost is added also for legacy OS which
doesn't touch xfd at all. 

Thanks
Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-16 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14  2:50 [patch 0/6] x86/fpu: Preparatory changes for guest AMX support Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 1/6] x86/fpu: Extend fpu_xstate_prctl() with guest permissions Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  5:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 2/6] x86/fpu: Prepare guest FPU for dynamically enabled FPU features Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 3/6] x86/fpu: Make XFD initialization in __fpstate_reset() a function argument Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 4/6] x86/fpu: Add guest support to xfd_enable_feature() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:21     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 13:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15  5:46         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-15  9:53           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15 10:02             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 5/6] x86/fpu: Provide fpu_update_guest_xcr0/xfd() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:25   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 15:09   ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-14 15:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 16:11       ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-14 18:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 19:07           ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-14 20:28             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14 21:35               ` Juan Quintela
2021-12-15  2:17                 ` Wang, Wei W
2021-12-15 10:09                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15 10:27                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-15 10:41                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16  1:00                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  5:36                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16 21:07                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 10:21                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16 10:24                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 10:26                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-16 13:00                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  1:04                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-16  9:34                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-16  9:59                           ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2021-12-16 14:12                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-17 15:33                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-15  6:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  2:50 ` [patch 6/6] x86/fpu: Provide kvm_sync_guest_vmexit_xfd_state() Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-15  6:35   ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-15  9:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-14  6:50 ` [patch 0/6] x86/fpu: Preparatory changes for guest AMX support Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14  6:52 ` Liu, Jing2
2021-12-14  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-14 10:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-14 13:24   ` Thomas Gleixner

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