From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2017 21:43:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1dd3a437-a20e-c808-749c-4cdb7b9d3675@infradead.org> References: <9621b73a-12e0-1254-932c-2456238b5526@aethyx.com> <1dd3a437-a20e-c808-749c-4cdb7b9d3675@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----7PO4X9U4TW4RXBXEG6V66U612WFGFM" Subject: Re: Getting kernel 4.14 to run on PS3 To: Geoff Levand CC: Linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,petitboot@lists.ozlabs.org From: Sascha Schroeder Message-ID: List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , ------7PO4X9U4TW4RXBXEG6V66U612WFGFM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Geoff, thanks for your time and the clarification! My firmware is downgradable, this should be possible because it got SS pat= ches=2E Could be these are from you, so I could go back in fact to 3=2E15 a= nd try the otheros=2Ebld workaround=2E Thing is, I don't know if I can spli= t my HDD to use my 110GB Linux; isn't it the case that normal OtherOS only = grants you 20GB for Linux? That's the only thing that's holding me back, th= is way I could even use normal Debian=2E I use an old and still working FAT model=2E The 1400 is a tool model which= I don't own=2E I don't like what I read about the ABI breakage stuff, to be honest=2E Esp= ecially the second link describes pretty well what happens on my machine=2E= So, current status here is to upgrade to 3=2E15 kernels only, I think it d= oesn't make sense to try higher versions at the moment=2E Is it really "onl= y" a kexec problem? Or something deeper, more difficult? I can try to help = but I'm pretty new in this PS3 PowerPC Linux stuff=2E=20 Using OtherOS++ was a coincidence=2E I found this special PUP which splits= the HDD in half for Linux and GameOS=2E This was exactly what I wanted, so= I stuck with it=2E :-) Finding PUPs today which provide Linux options is n= early impossible=2E I'm not a fan of "Rebug" either, don't want/need it=2E = But they had one firmware with OtherOS++ support which was taken down or wh= atever=2E It's just non-existent anymore=2E You don't know a community for OtherOS++ by chance? I found some forums on= line but most of them only care about pirated games (which doesn't interest= me at this age anymore) and/or show posts which are highly outdated=2E It's pretty hard today to stick with this hardware=2E But I'm fascinated b= y the Cell BE and want to learn it=2E It became a little obsession=2E So ev= en compiling a kernel on the PS3 doesn't bother me much, I go to work and w= hen I come home the fresh *=2Edeb packages are ready to install=2E :-D But = I understand what you mean of course, will check out cross-compiling=2E=20 Geoff, thanks again for your time and wisdom! All the best, Sascha Am 8=2E Dezember 2017 18:37:54 MEZ schrieb Geoff Levand : >Hi Sascha, > >On 12/08/2017 01:24 AM, Sascha Schroeder wrote: >> I yesterday tried to compile the newest kernel 4=2E14 for my PS3 >running >> OtherOS++ and "Red Ribbon GNU Linux" from 2014=2E I even succeeded and >> created the three *=2Edeb files and installed them afterwards=2E >>=20 >> Unfortunately, my machine did not boot=2E >>=20 >> As far as I read in very old sources, this could be that my machine >is >> using OtherOS++ on firmware 3=2E55=2E2 and not the Sony OtherOS prior >> firmware 3=2E2x=2E >>=20 >> I'm in contact with the creator from "Red Ribbon" and he mentioned we >> have to manually patch PS3 linux kernel=2E >>=20 >> So, my question 1 would be: which patches would I need to get the >newest >> kernel 4=2E14 running on my PS3 machine? > >I don't know about your machine with OtherOS++ on firmware 3=2E55=2E2, >but for FAT and DECR-1400 models with firmware 3=2E15 or lower the >otheros=2Ebld built from the latest ps3-queue-v4=2E14 branch of my >ps3-linux repo using either ps3_petitboot_defconfig or >ps3_petitboot_nfs_defconfig will boot if written to flash memory >using ps3-flash-util or the XMB [Install Other OS]=2E > > https://git=2Ekernel=2Eorg/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/geoff/ps3-linux=2Eg= it > >Be aware that there was a kernel ABI breakage effecting kexec and >that the ps3-petitboot-09=2E11=2E30 I released cannot boot kernels newer >than linux-v3=2E15=2E See: > >https://www=2Email-archive=2Ecom/linuxppc-dev@lists=2Eozlabs=2Eorg/msg126= 348=2Ehtml >(Boot new kernel on PS3) >https://www=2Email-archive=2Ecom/debian-powerpc@lists=2Edebian=2Eorg/msg6= 6884=2Ehtml >(PS3?) > >I'm working towards an updated petitboot release=2E > >> Question 2 would be: maybe there exists a second tree where we can >get >> the kernel for OtherOS++ too? > >Sorry, I don't know=2E You'll need to ask for help in the hacker >community for OtherOS++=2E > >> Maybe there is other stuff I am missing, but as far as I can tell the >> sources compile beautifully on the PS3 powerpc machine=2E Only >downside: >> it takes 4-5 hours depending on what you selected in the step of >"make >> menuconfig"=2E=2E=2E > >I highly recommend you cross compile on a PC=2E > >-Geoff=20 ------7PO4X9U4TW4RXBXEG6V66U612WFGFM Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Geoff,

thanks for your time and the clarification!

My firmware is downgradable, this should be possible because it got SS pat= ches=2E Could be these are from you, so I could go back in fact to 3=2E15 a= nd try the otheros=2Ebld workaround=2E Thing is, I don't know if I can = split my HDD to use my 110GB Linux; isn't it the case that normal Other= OS only grants you 20GB for Linux? That's the only thing that's hol= ding me back, this way I could even use normal Debian=2E

I use an old and still working FAT model=2E The 1400 is a tool model which= I don't own=2E

I don't like what I read about the ABI breakage stuff, to be honest=2E= Especially the second link describes pretty well what happens on my machin= e=2E So, current status here is to upgrade to 3=2E15 kernels only, I think = it doesn't make sense to try higher versions at the moment=2E Is it rea= lly "only" a kexec problem? Or something deeper, more difficult? = I can try to help but I'm pretty new in this PS3 PowerPC Linux stuff=2E=

Using OtherOS++ was a coincidence=2E I found this special PUP which splits= the HDD in half for Linux and GameOS=2E This was exactly what I wanted, so= I stuck with it=2E :-) Finding PUPs today which provide Linux options is n= early impossible=2E I'm not a fan of "Rebug" either, don'= t want/need it=2E But they had one firmware with OtherOS++ support which wa= s taken down or whatever=2E It's just non-existent anymore=2E

You don't know a community for OtherOS++ by chance? I found some forum= s online but most of them only care about pirated games (which doesn't = interest me at this age anymore) and/or show posts which are highly outdate= d=2E

It's pretty hard today to stick with this hardware=2E But I'm fasc= inated by the Cell BE and want to learn it=2E It became a little obsession= =2E So even compiling a kernel on the PS3 doesn't bother me much, I go = to work and when I come home the fresh *=2Edeb packages are ready to instal= l=2E :-D But I understand what you mean of course, will check out cross-com= piling=2E

Geoff, thanks again for your time and wisdom! All the best, Sascha

=
Am 8=2E Dezember 2017 18:37:54 MEZ schrieb Geoff= Levand <geoff@infradead=2Eorg>:
Hi Sascha,

On 12/08/2017 01:24 AM, Sascha=
 Schroeder wrote:
 I =
yesterday tried to compile the newest kernel 4=2E14 for my PS3 running
 OtherOS++ and "Red Ribbon GNU Linux" from 2014=2E I even succee=
ded and
 created the three *=2Edeb files and installed them afterwards=
=2E
 
 Unfortunately, my machine did not boot=2E
 
 As =
far as I read in very old sources, this could be that my machine is
 u=
sing OtherOS++ on firmware 3=2E55=2E2 and not the Sony OtherOS prior
 =
firmware 3=2E2x=2E
 
 I'm in contact with the creator from "=
Red Ribbon" and he mentioned we
 have to manually patch PS3 linux=
 kernel=2E
 
 So, my question 1 would be: which patches would I n=
eed to get the newest
 kernel 4=2E14 running on my PS3 machine?
<=
/blockquote>
I don't know about your machine with OtherOS++ on firmwar=
e 3=2E55=2E2,
but for FAT and DECR-1400 models with firmware 3=2E15 or=
 lower the
otheros=2Ebld built from the latest ps3-queue-v4=2E14 branc=
h of my
ps3-linux repo using either ps3_petitboot_defconfig or
ps=
3_petitboot_nfs_defconfig will boot if written to flash memory
using p=
s3-flash-util or the XMB [Install Other OS]=2E

  http=
s://git=2Ekernel=2Eorg/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/geoff/ps3-linux=2Egit
Be aware that there was a kernel ABI breakage effecting kexec and=

that the ps3-petitboot-09=2E11=2E30 I released cannot boot kernels ne=
wer
than linux-v3=2E15=2E See:

  https=
://www=2Email-archive=2Ecom/linuxppc-dev@lists=2Eozlabs=2Eorg/msg126348=2Eh=
tml (Boot new kernel on PS3)
  https://www=
=2Email-archive=2Ecom/debian-powerpc@lists=2Edebian=2Eorg/msg66884=2Ehtml (PS3?)

I'm working towards an updated petitboot release=2E
 Question 2 wou=
ld be: maybe there exists a second tree where we can get
 the kernel f=
or OtherOS++ too?

Sorry, I don't know=2E  You'll ne=
ed to ask for help in the hacker
community for OtherOS++=2E

 Maybe there is other stu=
ff I am missing, but as far as I can tell the
 sources compile beautif=
ully on the PS3 powerpc machine=2E Only downside:
 it takes 4-5 hours =
depending on what you selected in the step of "make
 menuconfig&q=
uot;=2E=2E=2E

I highly recommend you cross compile =
on a PC=2E

-Geoff
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