From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753905Ab1KGKbT (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 05:31:19 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:44810 "EHLO mail-ww0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752365Ab1KGKbS convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 05:31:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> From: Sasha Levin Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:30:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: Pekka Enberg , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , qemu-devel Developers , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , Blue Swirl , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >  Hi, > >> It's not just about code, it's as much about culture and development process. > > Indeed.  The BSDs have both kernel and the base system in a single > repository.  There are probably good reasons for (and against) it. > > In Linux we don't have that culture.  No tool (except perf) lives in the > kernel repo.  I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that merging that was a mistake? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Sasha Levin Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:30:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Blue Swirl , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Pekka Enberg , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds To: Gerd Hoffmann Return-path: In-Reply-To: <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+gceq-qemu-devel=gmane.org@nongnu.org List-Id: kvm.vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > =A0Hi, > >> It's not just about code, it's as much about culture and development pro= cess. > > Indeed. =A0The BSDs have both kernel and the base system in a single > repository. =A0There are probably good reasons for (and against) it. > > In Linux we don't have that culture. =A0No tool (except perf) lives in th= e > kernel repo. =A0I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that merging that was a mistake? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMU3-0003LC-LK for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:31:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMU2-0005MX-Qc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:31:19 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]:61285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RNMU2-0005MR-ML for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:31:18 -0500 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7so5678000wwg.10 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:31:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> References: <1320543320-32728-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de> <4EB65C5B.8070709@redhat.com> <4EB66036.4080102@redhat.com> <1320577728.1428.73.camel@jaguar> <4EB67486.1070105@redhat.com> <4EB67D17.7000701@redhat.com> <4EB680D9.2070706@redhat.com> <877C82F4-F07C-44AA-8722-3AF57CFC4597@suse.de> <4EB7B1A9.9000409@redhat.com> From: Sasha Levin Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:30:56 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: Blue Swirl , "kvm@vger.kernel.org list" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List" , Alexander Graf , qemu-devel Developers , Pekka Enberg , Avi Kivity , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Am=E9rico_Wang?= , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > =A0Hi, > >> It's not just about code, it's as much about culture and development pro= cess. > > Indeed. =A0The BSDs have both kernel and the base system in a single > repository. =A0There are probably good reasons for (and against) it. > > In Linux we don't have that culture. =A0No tool (except perf) lives in th= e > kernel repo. =A0I fail to see why kvm-tool is that much different from > udev, util-linux, iproute, filesystem tools, that it should be included. tools/power was merged in just 2 versions ago, do you think that merging that was a mistake?