From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S940993AbcIFScK (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Sep 2016 14:32:10 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f65.google.com ([209.85.218.65]:36504 "EHLO mail-oi0-f65.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932321AbcIFScG (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Sep 2016 14:32:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot> References: <1466117661-22075-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@kernel.org> <1466117661-22075-3-git-send-email-mcgrof@kernel.org> <20160824203901.GT3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160825194133.GC3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160902235916.GO3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160903002014.GP3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:32:05 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: K-CsRf6Lslg0l6xhNw5SARQ0ZDM Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support To: Bjorn Andersson Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Daniel Vetter , Mimi Zohar , Felix Fietkau , David Woodhouse , Roman Pen , Ming Lei , Andrew Morton , Michal Marek , Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Vikram Mulukutla , Stephen Boyd , Mark Brown , Takashi Iwai , Johannes Berg , Christian Lamparter , Hauke Mehrtens , Josh Boyer , Dmitry Torokhov , Jiri Slaby , Andy Lutomirski , Wu Fengguang , Richard Purdie , Jeff Mahoney , Jacek Anaszewski , Abhay_Salunke@dell.com, Julia Lawall , Gilles.Muller@lip6.fr, nicolas.palix@imag.fr, Tom Gundersen , Kay Sievers , David Howells , Alessandro Rubini , Kevin Cernekee , Kees Cook , Jonathan Corbet , Thierry Martinez , cocci@systeme.lip6.fr, linux-serial , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , linuxppc-dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bjorn Andersson wrote: > > Linus, I reversed the order of your questions/answers to fit my answer > better. Nobody has actually answered the "why don't we just tie the firmware and module together" question. Really. If the driver doesn't work without the firmware, then why the hell is it separated from it in the first place? The hack is a hack, and it just sounds *stupid*. Linus From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:32:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1466117661-22075-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@kernel.org> <1466117661-22075-3-git-send-email-mcgrof@kernel.org> <20160824203901.GT3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160825194133.GC3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160902235916.GO3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160903002014.GP3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot> Sender: linux-doc-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Bjorn Andersson Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Daniel Vetter , Mimi Zohar , Felix Fietkau , David Woodhouse , Roman Pen , Ming Lei , Andrew Morton , Michal Marek , Greg KH , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Vikram Mulukutla , Stephen Boyd , Mark Brown , Takashi Iwai , Johannes Berg , Christian Lamparter , Hauke Mehrtens , Josh Boyer , Dmitry List-Id: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bjorn Andersson wrote: > > Linus, I reversed the order of your questions/answers to fit my answer > better. Nobody has actually answered the "why don't we just tie the firmware and module together" question. Really. If the driver doesn't work without the firmware, then why the hell is it separated from it in the first place? The hack is a hack, and it just sounds *stupid*. Linus