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On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com> wrote:
>
> Look in syslog ?

That usually requires root permission, so it's an extra (annoying)
step. It also gives all kinds or other mostly irrelevant information
for a kernel person.

Besides, according to the same argument, dmesg shouldn't have times
*at*all*. So the "look in your syslog" is pointless for discussing the
dmesg timestamp.

                   Linus