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From: Yehezkel Bernat <yehezkelshb@gmail.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, joro@8bytes.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, ashok.raj@intel.com,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, jacob.jun.pan@intel.com,
	Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
	michael.jamet@intel.com, lukas@wunner.de,
	Christian Kellner <ckellner@redhat.com>,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
	Anthony Wong <anthony.wong@canonical.com>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] thunderbolt: Export IOMMU based DMA protection support to userspace
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:13:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CmpXtre+A-sNT0XBWfdkuq9xJ+j34EGZ0nEpahJCSe3Kvg9A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181113105558.GR2500@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:56 PM Mika Westerberg
<mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> > Just one point:
> > Have you considered the option to add this property per (TBT?) device?
>
> No. ;-)
>
> You mean that one device uses security levels and another IOMMU? I don't
> think it is possible without having some sort of table in the IOMMU
> driver telling which devices it needs identity map and which not. Also
> not sure what would be the benefit?

For performance, of course. If some devices are considered safe (maybe a list
communicated by platform firmware), the kernel may decide to configure them to
passthrough the IOMMU (I think I remember there is such an option, but maybe I'm
wrong.)


> > If the kernel may decide to enable/disable the IOMMU or AST per device, maybe
> > it should be on this level.
> > Or maybe the IOMMU decision isn't going to change (it's system-wide) and the AST
> > decision will be communicated per device by a new sysfs attribute anyway, if
> > needed?
>
> Not sure what you mean by "AST"? The IOMMU decision is pretty much
> system-wide.

Sorry, I meant ATS, Address Translation Service, mentioned in patch 3 in this
series, and possibly be enabled for some devices for performance, as mentioned
there.
So if needed, this will be another attribute, and definitely
per-device, isn't it?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-13 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-12 16:06 [PATCH 0/4] PCI / iommu / thunderbolt: IOMMU based DMA protection Mika Westerberg
     [not found] ` <20181112160628.86620-1-mika.westerberg-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 16:06   ` [PATCH 1/4] PCI / ACPI: Identify external PCI devices Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:06     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 18:02     ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found]       ` <20181112180203.lx72gjfplb6xlur7-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 10:56         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-13 10:56           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-13 11:27           ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]             ` <20181113112700.GT2500-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 11:45               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-13 11:45                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-15 10:22                 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 11:13                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]                     ` <20181115111356.GA599-4tUPXFaYRHv6sAKXYmQ0tx/iLCjYCKR+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-15 11:37                       ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 11:37                         ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 12:07                         ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-15 12:16                           ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 17:46                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-15 17:58                               ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-15 17:58                                 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-15 19:10                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 19:27                                   ` Lukas Wunner
2018-11-15 19:32                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-16  9:18                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16  9:32                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-22 10:48                                       ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-22 10:59                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-15 19:00                               ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-15 19:33                                 ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-15 19:33                                   ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-16 10:57                                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-20 21:43                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-21 12:40                                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2018-11-16  7:01                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:06   ` [PATCH 2/4] iommu/vt-d: Force IOMMU on for platform opt in hint Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:06     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 17:49     ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 18:09     ` Alex Williamson
2018-11-12 19:51       ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 3/4] iommu/vt-d: Do not enable ATS for external devices Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 17:53   ` Raj, Ashok
2018-11-12 16:06 ` [PATCH 4/4] thunderbolt: Export IOMMU based DMA protection support to userspace Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:22   ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-12 16:22     ` Mario.Limonciello
2018-11-13 10:36     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 16:59   ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 10:55     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 11:13       ` Yehezkel Bernat [this message]
2018-11-13 11:40         ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 14:42           ` Yehezkel Bernat
     [not found]             ` <CA+CmpXt1cfqjz94=WsggKpNCUw3761-cewa_HTa0ETcYK7o+Hw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 15:20               ` Mika Westerberg
     [not found]                 ` <20181113152038.GD2500-3PARRvDOhMZrdx17CPfAsdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 15:38                   ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 15:38                     ` Yehezkel Bernat
     [not found]                     ` <CA+CmpXteN1PJEHMV8rvfeBXK6Eb4z6BgZwa8Ojavi1y9pKN-jA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-13 16:12                       ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 16:12                         ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-12 18:12 ` [PATCH 0/4] PCI / iommu / thunderbolt: IOMMU based DMA protection Lukas Wunner
     [not found]   ` <20181112181214.xaahc5wni4vuwl6h-JFq808J9C/izQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-11-12 19:04     ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-12 19:04       ` Yehezkel Bernat
2018-11-13 11:13     ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13 11:13       ` Mika Westerberg
2018-11-13  8:54 ` Joerg Roedel
2018-11-13 11:32   ` Mika Westerberg

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