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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Michael Larabel <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
	Matthieu Baerts <matthieu.baerts@tessares.net>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	"Ted Ts'o" <tytso@google.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Benchmarking
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:40:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+icZUUUkuV-sSEtb6F5Gk=yJ0efKUzEfE-_ko_b8BE3C7PTvQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+icZUWVRordvPzJ=pYnQb1HiPFGxL6Acunkjfwx5YtgUw+wuA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:39 AM Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:00 PM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 12:27 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah, I see what you mean.  Hold the i_mmap_rwsem for write across,
> > > basically, the entirety of truncate_inode_pages_range().
> >
> > I really suspect that will be entirely unacceptable for latency
> > reasons, but who knows. In practice, nobody actually truncates a file
> > _while_ it's mapped, that's just crazy talk.
> >
> > But almost every time I go "nobody actually does this", I tend to be
> > surprised by just how crazy some loads are, and it turns out that
> > _somebody_ does it, and has a really good reason for doing odd things,
> > and has been doing it for years because it worked really well and
> > solved some odd problem.
> >
> > So the "hold it for the entirety of truncate_inode_pages_range()"
> > thing seems to be a really simple approach, and nice and clean, but it
> > makes me go "*somebody* is going to do bad things and complain about
> > page fault latencies".
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I followed this thread a bit and see there is now a...
>
> commit 5ef64cc8987a9211d3f3667331ba3411a94ddc79
> "mm: allow a controlled amount of unfairness in the page lock"
>
> By first reading I saw...
>
> + *  (a) no special bits set:
> ...
> + *  (b) WQ_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE:
> ...
> + *  (b) WQ_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE | WQ_FLAG_CUSTOM:
>
> The last one should be (c).
>
> There was a second typo I cannot remember when you sent your patch
> without a commit message.
>
> Will look again.
>
> Thanks and Greetings,
> - Sedat -

Ah I see...

+ * we have multiple different kinds of waits, not just he usual "exclusive"

... *t*he usual ...

- Sedat -

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-18  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                 ` <6e1d8740-2594-c58b-ff02-a04df453d53c@MichaelLarabel.com>
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     [not found]                       ` <CAHk-=wiz=J=8mJ=zRG93nuJ9GtQAm5bSRAbWJbWZuN4Br38+EQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-09-11  0:05                         ` Kernel Benchmarking Linus Torvalds
2020-09-11  0:49                           ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-11  2:20                             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                               ` <0cbc959e-1b8d-8d7e-1dc6-672cf5b3899a@MichaelLarabel.com>
2020-09-11 16:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-11 22:07                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-11 22:37                                     ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-12  7:28                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-09-12 10:32                                         ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-12 14:37                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-12 14:44                                             ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-15  3:32                                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-15 10:39                                                 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-15 13:52                                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                                             ` <658ae026-32d9-0a25-5a59-9c510d6898d5@MichaelLarabel.com>
2020-09-14 17:47                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-14 20:21                                                 ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-14 20:53                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15  0:42                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 15:34                                                     ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 18:27                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 18:47                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:26                                                           ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 19:32                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:56                                                               ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 23:35                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-16 10:34                                                                   ` Jan Kara
2020-09-16 18:47                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                         ` <9a92bf16-02c5-ba38-33c7-f350588ac874@tessares.net>
2020-09-15 19:24                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 19:38                                                             ` Matthieu Baerts
2020-09-15 18:31                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-15 14:21                                                 ` Michael Larabel
2020-09-15 17:52                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 17:51                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:23                                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 18:30                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 18:50                                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 19:00                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-17 19:27                                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-17 19:47                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-18  0:39                                                               ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-18  0:40                                                                 ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2020-09-18 20:25                                                                   ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 17:06                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 17:14                                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 17:40                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 18:00                                                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2020-09-20 23:23                                                               ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-20 23:31                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-20 23:40                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21  1:20                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-12 15:53                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-12 17:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-12 20:32                                           ` Rogério Brito
2020-09-14  9:33                                             ` Jan Kara
2020-09-12 20:58                                           ` Josh Triplett
2020-09-12 20:59                                           ` James Bottomley
2020-09-12 21:15                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-12 22:32                                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-13  0:40                                           ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-13  2:39                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-13  3:40                                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-13 23:45                                               ` Dave Chinner
2020-09-14  3:31                                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-15 14:28                                                   ` Chris Mason
2020-09-15  9:27                                                 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-13  3:18                                             ` Matthew Wilcox

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