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From: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
To: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>
Cc: "Hans Verkuil" <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	"Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
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	"Ezequiel Garcia" <ezequiel@collabora.com>,
	"Maxime Jourdan" <maxi.jourdan@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video encoder interface
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 14:49:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAFQd5BSvbeRB4XSpaORKmKP1_fhEtqm9Q10M7zJ0Evp0GPMLg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9fd20ee01384d0bd8e395c6cf52ed8dc9d47ff06.camel@ndufresne.ca>

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:06 AM Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca> wrote:
>
> Le vendredi 25 janvier 2019 à 12:59 +0900, Tomasz Figa a écrit :
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 5:14 AM Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca> wrote:
> > > Le mercredi 23 janvier 2019 à 14:04 +0100, Hans Verkuil a écrit :
> > > > > > Does this return the same set of formats as in the 'Querying Capabilities' phase?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's actually an interesting question. At this point we wouldn't have
> > > > > the OUTPUT resolution set yet, so that would be the same set as in the
> > > > > initial query. If we set the resolution (with some arbitrary
> > > > > pixelformat), it may become a subset...
> > > >
> > > > But doesn't setting the capture format also set the resolution?
> > > >
> > > > To quote from the text above:
> > > >
> > > > "The encoder will derive a new ``OUTPUT`` format from the ``CAPTURE`` format
> > > >  being set, including resolution, colorimetry parameters, etc."
> > > >
> > > > So you set the capture format with a resolution (you know that), then
> > > > ENUM_FMT will return the subset for that codec and resolution.
> > > >
> > > > But see also the comment at the end of this email.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking that the fact that there is no "unset" value for pixel
> > > format creates a certain ambiguity. Maybe we could create a new pixel
> > > format, and all CODEC driver could have that set by default ? Then we
> > > can just fail STREAMON if that format is set.
> >
> > The state on the CAPTURE queue is actually not "unset". The queue is
> > simply not ready (yet) and any operations on it will error out.
>
> My point was that it's just awkward to have this "not ready" state, in
> which you cannot go back. And in which the enum-format will ignore the
> format configured on the other side.
>
> What I wanted to say is that this special case is not really needed.
>

Yeah, I think we may actually end up going in that direction, as you
probably noticed in the discussion over the "venus: dec: make decoder
compliant with stateful codec API" patch [1].

[1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10768539/#22462703

> >
> > Once the application sets the coded resolution on the OUTPUT queue or
> > the decoder parses the stream information, the CAPTURE queue becomes
> > ready and one can do the ioctls on it.
> >
> > > That being said, in GStreamer, I have split each elements per CODEC,
> > > and now only enumerate the information "per-codec". That makes me think
> > > this "global" enumeration was just a miss-use of the API / me learning
> > > to use it. Not having to implement this rather complex thing in the
> > > driver would be nice. Notably, the new Amlogic driver does not have
> > > this "Querying Capabilities" phase, and with latest GStreamer works
> > > just fine.
> >
> > What do you mean by "doesn't have"? Does it lack an implementation of
> > VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT and VIDIOC_ENUM_FRAMESIZES?
>
> What it does is that it sets a default value for the codec format, so
> if you just open the device and do enum_fmt/framesizes, you get that is
> possible for the default codec that was selected. And I thin it's
> entirely correct, doing ENUM_FMT(capture) without doing an
> S_FMT(output) can easily be documented as undefined behaviour.

Okay.

>
> For proper enumeration would be:
>
> for formats on OUTPUT device:
>   S_FMT(OUTPUT):
>   for formats on CAPTURE device:
>     ...
>
> (the pseudo for look represent an enum operation)

And that's how it's defined in v3. There is no default state without
any codec selected.

Best regards,
Tomasz

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-06  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-22 14:48 [PATCH v2 0/2] Document memory-to-memory video codec interfaces Tomasz Figa
2018-10-22 14:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video decoder interface Tomasz Figa
2018-10-29  9:45   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2018-10-29 10:06     ` Tomasz Figa
2018-10-29 10:07       ` Tomasz Figa
2018-11-12 11:37   ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-22 10:02     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-22 14:47       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-23  5:27         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23  8:10           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24  9:06           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-24 19:55             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-25  3:27               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30  4:02                 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-06  5:35                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-09  9:47                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-10  9:26                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-12 15:04   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2018-11-15 14:34   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-17  4:31     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-11-17 11:43       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-18  1:25         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-10-22 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] media: docs-rst: Document memory-to-memory video encoder interface Tomasz Figa
2018-11-12 13:23   ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-17  4:18     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2018-11-17 11:37       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-11-18  1:34         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-23 10:02           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-24 20:02             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-23 10:00         ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23 11:28           ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24 20:04             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-25  3:29               ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23  9:52     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-23 13:04       ` Hans Verkuil
2019-01-24 20:14         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-01-25  3:59           ` Tomasz Figa
2019-01-30 15:06             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2019-02-06  5:49               ` Tomasz Figa [this message]
2018-10-22 15:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Document memory-to-memory video codec interfaces Hans Verkuil
2018-10-23  0:54   ` Tomasz Figa

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