From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix, from userid 118) id 1EDD1E006B5; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:14:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on yocto-www.yoctoproject.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (rjohnweber[at]gmail.com) * -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low * trust * [209.85.214.179 listed in list.dnswl.org] * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's * domain * 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily * valid * -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9250AE00563 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so4429641obc.38 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:14:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=w0XqSkPDbUqa67go5r/DKL2VEJ4GtghyN1hEiWFQPbk=; b=TrWtMkk3CfU/yZTQWX2kPL1kL7jF+LKJ7EmPRRqD/4TfIdLZJpETjFHH15r8LcAzJc gtJk3BZcWuqupCGn05Q3fsnf+e4UdGwOAJwPqpJn+Dtqq8qsaY1sHXSilCjWm+wgrXXm 8nIUE7JPRMTP81tgDlKCA81EzyIc4cwZpAGHi8KZ79CzkeiKDgKkgwpd1ND8I76abVHr 6Mz3ekxfvRiuhz7100HA1rkr/N+aoYBXhF/R/kwIt/IxjclQrEaxBsHjdoAaE0IxZMDZ yBX94BRTtryQhkvOAKc0XCBbLpz8PDWeElgiYKO+o7NBcoDCJfDfJBBc2FGNiLvWzImg oFrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.52.197 with SMTP id v5mr4580627obo.85.1408396473747; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.34.5 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 14:14:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53F25596.2030808@pseudoterminal.org> References: <8f1e8166115a4a4381ded78a5536c001@BY2PR03MB379.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <23db6296a5b24ce3accdde41476d7d6d@DM2PR0301MB0701.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> <53F25596.2030808@pseudoterminal.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:14:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: John Weber To: Carlos Rafael Giani Cc: "meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org" Subject: Re: i.MX 3.10.31-1.1.0_beta release - community feedback requested X-BeenThere: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Usage and development list for the meta-fsl-* layers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:14:48 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b0d88560c60500eddb80 --089e0158b0d88560c60500eddb80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The beta will be around for 3+ months after the release of 1.7, I don't think we have an option but to keep 3.10.17 the preferred version. Unless it was really good. And even it it was great, I wouldn't want to remove 3.10.17 recipes as that could be a fallback for users. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Carlos Rafael Giani wrote: > The EGL backend is broken? I didn't notice. I ran chromium with EGL and > GLESv2 based rendering successfully with it. > > I vote for option 1. Option 2 means there wouldn't be an FSL supported > kernel in master until January, which is a rather strange situation. I > understand FSL wants to maximize the feedback they get, but isn't it > important to have a FSL supported kernel available? Yes, it is there in > daisy, but master is a reviewed branch, so customers can actually use it. > Instead, I'd keep 3.10.17 , but encourage customers and hobbyists to try > out the beta, since they would benefit from this as well. > > > On 08/18/2014 05:54 PM, Alfonso Tam=C3=A9s wrote: > >> Option 2! 3.10.17 seems to have the EGL backend broken so let's embrace >> the future in master branch. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alfonso >> >> On 18/08/2014, at 10:32, Lauren Post wrote: >>> >>> Our 3.10.31-1.1.0 Beta release is now in field trial to be completed by >>> next week. My team will be up-streaming this release next week into >>> master-next branch. >>> >>> This release has the following new features >>> - Kernel upgrade to 3.10.31 >>> - Supports new i.MX6 SoloX SabreSD machine >>> - U-Boot-imx upgrade to 2014.04 version >>> - New GPU Vivante version v5 >>> o Supports OpenGLES 3.0 APIs with backward compatibility with >>> earlier version APIs. >>> o DirectFB 1.7.1 >>> o Wayland 1.5 >>> o Xorg 1.15 >>> o Qt5 fixes for X11, Wayland and Framebuffer backends on i.MX >>> parts containing 3D GPU. >>> o i.MX 6 SoloLite fixes for DirectFB, Wayland and frame buffe= r >>> backends. >>> o fsl-gpu-sdk version 1.2 supporting all backends. >>> - Multimedia Features >>> o Freescale Gstreamer 1.0 support >>> o Gstreamer 0.1 Fixes >>> o Upgraded VPU firmware and wrapper software >>> o G2D integration >>> >>> We have a question to community. Our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release is not >>> public/released until January. We have two options for upstream of >>> 3.10.31 into meta-fsl-arm and would like feedback from community. >>> >>> - Option 1 - Upstream 3.10.31 beta into master-next branch and branch >>> master with 3.10.17 once Yocto Project 1.7 name is announced in late Se= pt >>> or early October >>> o This means that 3.10.31-1.1.0_beta will be in master-next branc= h >>> during September. >>> o Also means Freescale will get less feedback from community to >>> fix for our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release. >>> o 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA will be part of Yocto Project 1.8 release only >>> in April 2015. >>> - Option 2 - Upstream 3.10.31-1.1.0 Beta into master branch and remove >>> 3.10.17 from master branch. >>> o This means Yocto Project 1.7 release will not be production cod= e >>> for i.MX6 until our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release planned in January. >>> o Allows earlier production release of 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA with Solo= X >>> and Graphics as part of Yocto Project 1.7 in January. >>> o Beta is not supported (by freescale/for production/by SR). >>> However bugs can be sent to imx-community and if time before GA code fr= eeze >>> Freescale can try to fix in our GA release. >>> >>> Please provide your feedback. Freescale prefers Option 2 because we ca= n >>> get more feedback about bugs to fix in our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release but= we >>> will abide by community wishes if they prefer Option 1. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lauren Post >>> Yocto Project i.MX Team Lead >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> meta-freescale mailing list >>> meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org >>> https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-freescale >>> >> > -- > _______________________________________________ > meta-freescale mailing list > meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/meta-freescale > --089e0158b0d88560c60500eddb80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The beta will be around for 3+ = months after the release of 1.7, I don't think we have an option but to= keep=20 3.10.17 the preferred version. =C2=A0 Unless it was really good.=C2=A0 And = even it it was great, I wouldn't=20 want to remove 3.10.17 recipes as that could be a fallback for users.
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Carlos Rafael= Giani <dv@pseudoterminal.org> wrote:
The EGL backend is broken= ? I didn't notice. I ran chromium with EGL and GLESv2 based rendering s= uccessfully with it.

I vote for option 1. Option 2 means there wouldn't be an FSL supported = kernel in master until January, which is a rather strange situation. I unde= rstand FSL wants to maximize the feedback they get, but isn't it import= ant to have a FSL supported kernel available? Yes, it is there in daisy, bu= t master is a reviewed branch, so customers can actually use it. Instead, I= 'd keep 3.10.17 , but encourage customers and hobbyists to try out the = beta, since they would benefit from this as well.


On 08/18/2014 05:54 PM, Alfonso Tam=C3=A9s wrote:
Option 2! 3.10.17 seems to have the EGL backend broken so let's embrace= the future in master branch.

Thanks,

Alfonso

On 18/08/2014, at 10:32, Lauren Post <Lauren.Post@freescale.com> wrote:

Our 3.10.31-1.1.0 Beta release is now in field trial to be completed by nex= t week.=C2=A0 My team will be up-streaming this release next week into mast= er-next branch.

This release has the following new features
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0 Kernel upgrade to 3.10.31
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0 Supports new i.MX6 SoloX SabreSD machine
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0 U-Boot-imx upgrade to 2014.04 version
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0 New GPU Vivante version v5
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Supports OpenGLES 3.0 APIs with b= ackward compatibility with earlier version APIs.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0DirectFB 1.7.1
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Wayland 1.5
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Xorg 1.15
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Qt5 fixes for X11, Wayland and Fr= amebuffer backends on i.MX parts containing 3D GPU.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0i.MX 6 SoloLite fixes for DirectF= B, Wayland and frame buffer backends.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0fsl-gpu-sdk version 1.2 supportin= g all backends.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -=C2=A0 =C2=A0Multimedia Features
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Freescale Gstreamer 1.0 support =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Gstreamer 0.1 Fixes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Upgraded VPU firmware and wrapper= software
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0G2D integration

We have a question to community.=C2=A0 Our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release is not = public/released until January.=C2=A0 =C2=A0We have two options for upstream= of 3.10.31 into meta-fsl-arm and would like feedback from community.

- Option 1 - Upstream 3.10.31 beta into master-next branch and branch maste= r with 3.10.17 once Yocto Project 1.7 name is announced in late Sept or ear= ly October
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0This means that 3.10.31-1.1.0_beta will be in m= aster-next branch during September.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Also means Freescale will get less feedback fro= m community to fix for our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A03.10.31-1.1.0 GA will be part of Yocto Project = 1.8 release only in April 2015.
- Option 2 - Upstream 3.10.31-1.1.0 Beta into master branch and remove 3.10= .17 from master branch.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0This means Yocto Project 1.7 release will not b= e production code for i.MX6 until our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release planned in J= anuary.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Allows earlier production release of 3.10.31-1.= 1.0 GA with SoloX and Graphics as part of Yocto Project 1.7 in January.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 o=C2=A0 =C2=A0Beta is not supported (by freescale/for product= ion/by SR).=C2=A0 However bugs can be sent to imx-community and if time bef= ore GA code freeze Freescale can try to fix in our GA release.

Please provide your feedback.=C2=A0 Freescale prefers Option 2 because we c= an get more feedback about bugs to fix in our 3.10.31-1.1.0 GA release but = we will abide by community wishes if they prefer Option 1.

Thanks,
Lauren Post
Yocto Project i.MX Team Lead

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