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From: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Lucas Meneghel Rodrigues <lmr@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:10:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAu8pHuh9ju8hkdfxOdQhO=N-RhtCofDPn4PiEWjy3gYdETd_g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6288E4.10805@codemonkey.ws>

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
> On 09/01/2011 12:58 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>> On 08/31/2011 07:59 PM, Blue Swirl wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > That makes it impossible to migrate level-triggered irq lines. Or at
>>> least,
>>> > the receiver has to remember the state, instead of (or in addition
>>> to) the
>>> > sender.
>>>
>>> Both ends probably need to remember the state. That should work
>>> without any multiphase restores and transient suppressors.
>>
>> State should always correspond to real hardware state - a flip flop or
>> capacitor. Input is not state, it is input.
>>
>>> It might be also possible to introduce stateful signal lines which
>>> save and restore their state, then the receiving end could check what
>>> is the current level. However, if you consider that the devices may be
>>> restored in random order, if the IRQ line device happens to be
>>> restored later, the receiver would still get wrong information. Adding
>>> priorities could solve this, but I think stateless IRQs are the only
>>> sane way.
>>
>> I agree that irqs should be stateless, since they don't have any memory
>> associated.
>
> In Real Life, you can tie a single bit multiple registers together with
> boolean logic to form an output pin.  This is essentially computed state.
>  If we wanted to model a stateless pin, we would need to do something like:
>
> struct Serial {
>   uint8_t thr;
>   uint8_t lsr;
> };
>
> static bool serial_get_irq(Serial *s) {
>   return (s->thr & THRE) | (s->lsr & LSRE);
> }
>
> static void serial_write(Serial *s, uint64_t addr, uint8_t value)
> {
>   switch (addr) {
>   case THR:
>      bool old_irq = serial_get_irq(s);
>      s->thr = value;
>      if (!old_irq && serial_get_irq(s)) {
>          notify_edge_change(s);
>      }
>   ...
> }
>
> static void serial_init(Serial *s)
> {
>    register_pin(s, serial_get_irq);
> }
>
> Obviously, this is pretty sucky.  This is what we do today but we don't have
> a way to query irq value which is wrong.  You could fix that by adding the
> get function but that's not terribly fun.  A better way:
>
> struct Serial {
>    Pin irq;
>    uint8_t thr;
>    uint8_t lsr;
> };
>
> static void serial_update_irq(Serial *s)
> {
>   pin_set_level(&s->irq, (s->thr & THRE) | (s->lsr & LSRE));
> }
>
> static void serial_write(Serial *s) {
>   switch (addr) {
>   case THR:
>      s->thr = value;
>      serial_update_irq(s);
>   ...
> }
>
> This results in much nicer code.  The edge handling can be done in generic
> code which will make things more robust overall.

I'm sorry but I don't see a huge difference, could you elaborate?

Maybe if the internal state of Pin is magically shared between the
endpoint devices (like typedef bool *Pin) and the devices somehow
still save Pin state as part of their own despite the duplication,
this could work. Restoring Pins first and then devices is a sort of
priority scheme.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-03 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-27 14:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pc: Clean up PIC-to-APIC IRQ path Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28  7:10 ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-28  9:08   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 19:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-29 21:06   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 21:13     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 21:18       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:19       ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-30 19:28         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-30 19:43           ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31  8:25           ` Peter Maydell
2011-08-31 10:53             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 17:41               ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-31 19:44                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 10:33                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:25                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-03 19:54               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 12:13                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:32                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:36                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:41                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:49                         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:57                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 14:37                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:20                               ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 15:31                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:44                                   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-05 10:44                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-04 14:12                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 14:43                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:19                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 15:34                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 15:27                             ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 12:17               ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 12:37                 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 12:43                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-04 13:38                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:42                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-04 13:55                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04 13:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-31  8:28         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-31 16:59           ` Blue Swirl
2011-08-31 18:04             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-08-31 18:28               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-01  5:58             ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-03 20:07               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:10                 ` Blue Swirl [this message]
2011-09-03 21:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-04  9:27                     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 19:53             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-03 21:01               ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-04 14:49                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-05  8:38               ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05  8:51                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05  9:02                   ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-05  9:14                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05  9:22                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05  9:28                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-05 10:47                       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-05 19:36                 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-06  7:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-01  9:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] pc: Fix and clean " Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03  8:58   ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 11:17     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-03 11:37       ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-03 18:14         ` Jan Kiszka

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