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From: Howard Spoelstra <hsp.cat7@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:21:59 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] regression in 2.8: unable to exit screen grab in
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To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>, Cole Robinson <crobinso@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
> Am 16.12.2016 um 09:26 hat Thomas Huth geschrieben:
>> On 15.12.2016 20:19, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 09:15:27PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:25:50PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> >>>> Do we fix this or disable SDL altogether?
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, it can't be *that* bad, otherwise it would not went unnoticed for
>> >>> a whole release cycle.
>> >>
>> >> That's what I'm saying, maybe no one uses SDL anymore.
>>
>> It's maybe not as common as the GTK interface, but as far as I know
>> people still use the SDL interface. For example here:
>>
>>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/922076
>>
>> ... so I would recommend to keep the SDL code in QEMU.
>
> When I actualy use qemu rather than just doing a quick test, I generally
> prefer SDL, too, because the GTK frontend still grabs some keys like F10
> for itself instead of passing them to the guest. And using HMP for
> something as simple as that - no, thanks.
>
> Kevin
>

I'd like to also point to the recent status report by Stefan Weil
concerning UI support in Windows builds:
http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-12/msg01383.html

At least for PPC Mac OS/OSX guests only the SDL1.2 UI is somewhat
usable, GTK2/3, SDL2 and VNC are all problematic.

Best,
Howard