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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Elena Ufimtseva" <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>,
	"John G Johnson" <john.g.johnson@oracle.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Leonardo Bras Soares Passos" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Fam Zheng" <fam@euphon.net>,
	"Jagannathan Raman" <jag.raman@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: multifd: Enable zerocopy
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 11:26:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACGkMEthN+onLg3u=DceUmE61o86BuADSOGttthEVE5PzLtL7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTgs08NlzFlnzXsH@xz-m1.local>

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:24 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 10:59:57AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 2:32 AM Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 04:22:55AM -0300, Leonardo Bras Soares Passos wrote:
> > > > > I don't think it is valid to unconditionally enable this feature due to the
> > > > > resource usage implications
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.4/networking/msg_zerocopy.html
> > > > >
> > > > >   "A zerocopy failure will return -1 with errno ENOBUFS. This happens
> > > > >    if the socket option was not set, the socket exceeds its optmem
> > > > >    limit or the user exceeds its ulimit on locked pages."
> > > >
> > > > You are correct, I unfortunately missed this part in the docs :(
> > > >
> > > > > The limit on locked pages is something that looks very likely to be
> > > > > exceeded unless you happen to be running a QEMU config that already
> > > > > implies locked memory (eg PCI assignment)
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean the limit an user has on locking memory?
> > > >
> > > > If so, that makes sense. I remember I needed to set the upper limit of locked
> > > > memory for the user before using it, or adding a capability to qemu before.
> > >
> > > So I'm a bit confused on why MSG_ZEROCOPY requires checking RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> > >
> > > The thing is IIUC that's accounting for pinned pages only with either mlock()
> > > (FOLL_MLOCK) or vfio (FOLL_PIN).
> > >
> > > I don't really think MSG_ZEROCOPY is doing that at all...  I'm looking at
> > > __zerocopy_sg_from_iter() -> iov_iter_get_pages().
> >
> > It happens probably here:
> >
> > E.g
> >
> > __ip_append_data()
> >     msg_zerocopy_realloc()
> >         mm_account_pinned_pages()
>
> Right. :)
>
> But my previous question is more about the reason behind it - I thought that's
> a common GUP and it shouldn't rely on locked_vm because it should still be
> temporary GUP rather than a long time GUP, IMHO that's how we use locked_vm (we
> don't account for temp GUPs but only longterm ones). IOW, I'm wondering whether
> all the rest of iov_iter_get_pages() callers should check locked_vm too, and
> AFAIU they're not doing that right now..

You are probably right, but I'm not sure if it's too late to fix that.
(E.g it will break existing userspace)

Thanks

>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Peter Xu
>



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-08  3:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31 11:02 [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] io: Enable write flags for QIOChannel Leonardo Bras
2021-09-01 20:54   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-02  8:26     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] io: Add zerocopy and errqueue Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 12:57   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:27     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:50       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:52         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01 15:59           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:07         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  6:59       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 16:44         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 20:13           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:04             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  6:38     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:47       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:34         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:49           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:19             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02 10:28               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-07 11:06                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:09                   ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  8:30                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:24                       ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  8:49                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 20:25                   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-08 21:09                     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08 21:57                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-09  2:05                         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  4:58                           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-09 16:40                             ` Peter Xu
2021-08-31 11:02 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] migration: multifd: Enable zerocopy Leonardo Bras
2021-08-31 13:16   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-08-31 20:29     ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01  8:53       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 15:35         ` Peter Xu
2021-09-01 15:44           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-01 16:01             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-02  7:57             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:13             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:26               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  7:23           ` Jason Wang
2021-09-02  8:08             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:27       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  7:22     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  8:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  8:52         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:20           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02  9:49             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-02  9:59               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-02 10:25                 ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-09-07 11:17             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-07 18:32       ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  2:59         ` Jason Wang
2021-09-08  3:24           ` Peter Xu
2021-09-08  3:26             ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-09-08  8:19           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-09-08 15:19             ` Peter Xu
2021-09-09  1:10               ` Jason Wang
2021-08-31 21:24 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] QIOChannel flags + multifd zerocopy Peter Xu
2021-09-01 19:21   ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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