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From: Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:ULTRA-WIDEBAND (UWB) SUBSYSTEM:" 
	<linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@gmail.com>,
	Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] pci: Support "removable" attribute for PCI devices
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:59:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACK8Z6E_zbUguY2qUE5Jbgzj3fwcQ_xMVxHYs_VeY5Hm=S4zGQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0jF1M95MJO+gGL2rmk=rmt5u0sYR-DCJW4+Bb5WP+3W7w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:58 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:03 AM Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2021, 14:21 +0200 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> >
> > > In principle, in the wake of Thunderbolt every PCI driver handling
> > > PCIe devices needs to be able to deal with a device that's gone away
> > > without notice, because in principle any PCIe device can be included
> > > into a Thunderbolt docking station which may go away as a whole
> > > without notice.
> >
> > Yes, but we are dealing with what we export to user space, don't we?
>
> Right, so it would be good to know why exporting this information to
> user space is desired.

For us, the driving motivation is to implement policies in userspace
for user removable devices. Eg:

* Tracking the statistics around usage of user removable devices (how
many users use such devices, how often etc).
* Removing user removable devices when a user logs out.
* Not allowing a new user removable device while the screen is locked.
* (perhaps additional such policies in future).

Thanks,

Rajat

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-24  2:16 [PATCH v2 1/2] driver core: Move the "removable" attribute from USB to core Rajat Jain
2021-04-24  2:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] pci: Support "removable" attribute for PCI devices Rajat Jain
2021-04-26  9:17   ` Oliver Neukum
2021-04-26 11:49     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-04-26 13:01       ` David Laight
2021-04-26 19:47         ` Rajat Jain
2021-04-27 11:59         ` Oliver Neukum
2021-04-27 12:59           ` David Laight
2021-04-28  6:56             ` Oliver Neukum
2021-04-28 12:21               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-04-29  9:03                 ` Oliver Neukum
2021-04-29  9:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-04-29 16:59                     ` Rajat Jain [this message]
2021-05-11 21:30   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-11 22:15     ` Rajat Jain
2021-05-11 23:02       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-12  0:02         ` Rajat Jain
2021-05-12 22:28           ` Rajat Jain
2021-04-25 14:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] driver core: Move the "removable" attribute from USB to core Alan Stern
2021-05-11 19:22 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-05-11 21:36   ` Rajat Jain
2021-05-12  1:00 ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-05-12  1:20   ` Rajat Jain
2021-05-12 22:27     ` Rajat Jain
2021-05-12 23:32       ` Krzysztof Wilczyński

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