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From: Stefan Puiu <stefan.puiu@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
	Martin Sebor <msebor@redhat.com>,
	"G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com>,
	Douglas McIlroy <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu>,
	Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net>, Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Iker Pedrosa <ipedrosa@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:47:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACKs7VDYWBaMtAELqnV31eJjRNebPH-m9kZiXXq4fABgvQ+E5Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff1858d2-f354-294f-aaf4-35a1becef557@gmail.com>

Hi Alex!

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:46 AM Alejandro Colomar
<alx.manpages@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Formatted strpcy(3):
>
> strcpy(3)                  Library Functions Manual                  strcpy(3)
>
> NAME
>         strcpy - copy or catenate a string
>
> LIBRARY
>         Standard C library (libc, -lc)
>
> SYNOPSIS
>         #include <string.h>
>
>         char *stpcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src);
>         char *strcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src);
>         char *strcat(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src);
>
>     Feature Test Macro Requirements for glibc (see feature_test_macros(7)):
>
>         stpcpy():
>             Since glibc 2.10:
>                 _POSIX_C_SOURCE >= 200809L
>             Before glibc 2.10:
>                 _GNU_SOURCE
>
> DESCRIPTION
>         stpcpy()
>         strcpy()
>                These functions copy the string pointed to by src, into a string
>                at  the buffer pointed to by dst.  The programmer is responsible
>                for allocating a buffer large enough, that is, strlen(src) +  1.
>                They only differ in the return value.

A destination buffer large enough? It's not that obvious to me from
the text, but maybe I'm tired :).
I was also a bit at a loss about the difference between the two; maybe
you can say "For the difference between the two, see RETURN VALUE"?

>
>         strcat()
>                This function catenates the string pointed to by src, at the end
>                of  the string pointed to by dst.  The programmer is responsible
>                for allocating a buffer large enough,  that  is,  strlen(dst)  +
>                strlen(src) + 1.

Ditto here.

>
>         An implementation of these functions might be:
>
>             char *
>             stpcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>             {
>                 char  *end;
>
>                 end = mempcpy(dst, src, strlen(src));
>                 *end = '\0';
>
>                 return end;
>             }
>
>             char *
>             strcpy(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>             {
>                 stpcpy(dst, src);
>                 return dst;
>             }
>
>             char *
>             strcat(char *restrict dst, const char *restrict src)
>             {
>                 stpcpy(dst + strlen(dst), src);
>                 return dst;
>             }

Are you sure this section adds any value? I think good documentation
should explain how a function works without delving into the
interpretation. Also, people might get confused and think this is the
actual implementation.

>
> RETURN VALUE
>         stpcpy()
>                This  function returns a pointer to the terminating null byte at
>                the end of the copied string.
>
>         strcpy()
>         strcat()
>                These functions return dest.
>
> ATTRIBUTES
>         For an explanation of the terms  used  in  this  section,  see  attrib‐
>         utes(7).
>         ┌────────────────────────────────────────────┬───────────────┬─────────┐
>         │Interface                                   │ Attribute     │ Value   │
>         ├────────────────────────────────────────────┼───────────────┼─────────┤
>         │stpcpy(), strcpy(), strcat()                │ Thread safety │ MT‐Safe │
>         └────────────────────────────────────────────┴───────────────┴─────────┘
>
> STANDARDS
>         stpcpy()
>                POSIX.1‐2008.
>
>         strcpy()
>         strcat()
>                POSIX.1‐2001, POSIX.1‐2008, C89, C99, SVr4, 4.3BSD.
>
> CAVEATS
>         The strings src and dst may not overlap.
>
>         If  the  destination  buffer is not large enough, the behavior is unde‐
>         fined.  See _FORTIFY_SOURCE in feature_test_macros(7).
>
> BUGS
>         strcat()
>                This function can be  very  inefficient.   Read  about  Shlemiel
>                the      painter     ⟨https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/12/11/
>                back-to-basics/⟩.

I'm not sure this is a bug, rather a design limitation. Maybe it
belongs in NOTES or CAVEATS? Also, I think this can be summarized
along the lines of 'strcat needs to walk the destination buffer to
find the null terminator, so it has linear complexity with respect to
the size of the destination buffer up to the terminator' (hmm, I'm
sure this can be expressed more concisely), so the page is more self
contained. Outside links sometimes go dead, like on Wikipedia, so I
think just in case, it helps to make explicit the point that you want
the reader to study further in the URL.

Regards,
Stefan.

>
> EXAMPLES
>         #include <stdio.h>
>         #include <stdlib.h>
>         #include <string.h>
>
>         int
>         main(void)
>         {
>             char    *p;
>             char    buf1[BUFSIZ];
>             char    buf2[BUFSIZ];
>             size_t  len;
>
>             p = buf1;
>             p = stpcpy(p, "Hello ");
>             p = stpcpy(p, "world");
>             p = stpcpy(p, "!");
>             len = p - buf1;
>
>             printf("[len = %zu]: ", len);
>             puts(buf1);  // "Hello world!"
>
>             strcpy(buf2, "Hello ");
>             strcat(buf2, "world");
>             strcat(buf2, "!");
>             len = strlen(buf2);
>
>             printf("[len = %zu]: ", len);
>             puts(buf2);  // "Hello world!"
>
>             exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
>         }
>
> SEE ALSO
>         strdup(3), string(3), wcscpy(3), string_copy(7)
>
> Linux man‐pages (unreleased)        (date)                           strcpy(3)
>
> --
> <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/>

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-11 23:59 string_copy(7): New manual page documenting string copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12  0:17 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12  0:25 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12  0:32 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 17:33   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 18:38     ` groff man(7) extensions (was: [PATCH 1/3] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions) G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-13 15:45       ` a Q quotation macro for man(7) (was: groff man(7) extensions) G. Branden Robinson
2022-12-12 23:00   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Rewrite strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 20:56     ` Jakub Wilk
2022-12-13 20:57       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 22:05       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-13 22:46         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14  0:03     ` [PATCH v3 0/1] Rewritten page for string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14  0:14       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14  0:16         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17       ` [PATCH v4 " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Rewrite pages about " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Rewrite documentation for " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 1/5] string_copy.7: Add page to document all " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-20 15:00             ` Stefan Puiu
2022-12-20 15:03               ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-20  3:43             ` Eric Biggers
2023-01-20 12:55               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-19 21:02           ` [PATCH v6 5/5] strncat.3: Rewrite to be consistent with string_copy.7 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 1/5] string_copy.7: Add page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:30           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 2/5] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, ustpcpy.3, ustr2stp.3, zustr2stp.3, zustr2ustp.3: Add new links to string_copy(7) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:27           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 18:47             ` Stefan Puiu [this message]
2022-12-16 19:03               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 19:09                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 3/5] stpcpy.3, strcpy.3, strcat.3: Document in a single page Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 14:46           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-16 14:47             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 4/5] stpncpy.3, strncpy.3: " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:28           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:26         ` [PATCH v5 5/5] strncat.3: Rewrite to be consistent with string_copy.7 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-15  0:29           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:17       ` [PATCH v4 1/1] strcpy.3: Rewrite page to document all string-copying functions Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14  0:03     ` [PATCH v3 " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 16:22       ` Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-14 16:36         ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 17:11           ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-14 17:19             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] stpcpy.3, stpncpy.3, strcat.3, strncat.3, strncpy.3: Transform the old pages into links to strcpy(3) Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 23:00   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, strlcat.3, strlcpy.3, strscpy.3: Add new " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] stpcpy.3, stpncpy.3, strcat.3, strncat.3, strncpy.3: Transform the old pages into " Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] stpecpy.3, stpecpyx.3, strlcat.3, strlcpy.3, strscpy.3: Add new " Alejandro Colomar

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