All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
To: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <info@metux.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>,
	"open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/12] platform/x86: skeleton for oftree based board device initialization
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 10:58:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACRpkdYbOX_RDqwxaiugtYB4vSpSKChvKsPjcB_vv3Q74QeG2Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210208222203.22335-12-info@metux.net>

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:22 PM Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
<info@metux.net> wrote:

> Lots of boards have extra devices that can't be fully probed via bus'es
> (like PCI) or generic firmware mechanisms like ACPI. Often those capabilities
> are just partial or even highly depend on firmware version.

I think Intel people often take the stance that the ACPI DSDT (or whatever)
needs to be fixed.

If the usecase is to explicitly work around deployed firmware that cannot
and will not be upgraded/fixed by describing the hardware using DT
instead, based on just the DMI ID then we should spell that out
explicitly.

It feels a bit like fixing a problem using a different hardware description
just because we can. Look in drivers/gpio/gpiolib-acpi.c
table gpiolib_acpi_quirks[]. It's just an example how this is fixed using
fine granular ACPI-specific mechanisms at several places in the kernel
instead of just tossing out the whole description and redoing it in
device tree.

I haven't worked with this in practice so I suppose it is a bit up to
the people who end up having to fix this kind of stuff, Hans de Goede
and Andy are fixing this kind of stuff all the time so their buy-in is
important, we need to see that this is a real, useful tool for people
like them, not just nice to have.

Yours,
Linus Walleij

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-12 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-08 22:21 RFC: oftree based setup of composite board devices Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] of: base: improve error message in of_phandle_iterator_next() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] of: base: introduce of_find_node_by_phandle_from() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] of: base: record root node in interator and use it for phandle lookup Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] of: base: introduce of_match_string() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 23:52   ` Rob Herring
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] of: kobj: __of_attach_node_sysfs(): add optional basename parameter Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] of: kobj: introduce of_attach_tree_sysfs() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] gpio: amd-fch: add oftree probing support Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-09  3:46   ` kernel test robot
2021-02-11  9:57   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2021-02-13  4:26   ` kernel test robot
2021-03-01 14:51   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-11 10:17     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-03-11 10:42       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-18  8:00         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-03-25  9:09           ` Linus Walleij
2021-02-08 22:21 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] drivers: base: introduce bus_remove_device_by_name() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:22 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] drivers: base: reintroduce find_bus() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-13 10:20   ` Greg KH
2021-02-23 20:13     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-24  8:00       ` Greg KH
2021-02-24 15:30         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-24 16:28           ` Greg KH
2021-02-08 22:22 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] export bus_get() / bus_put() Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-08 22:22 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] platform/x86: skeleton for oftree based board device initialization Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-10 10:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-12  9:58   ` Linus Walleij [this message]
2021-02-12 11:54     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-15  1:18       ` Frank Rowand
2021-02-23 20:41         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-03-02 13:33       ` Linus Walleij
2021-02-08 22:22 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] platform/x86/of: add support for PC Engines APU v2/3/4 boards Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-09  0:06   ` Rob Herring
2021-02-11 13:15     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-03-01 14:55   ` Linus Walleij
2021-02-08 23:48 ` RFC: oftree based setup of composite board devices Rob Herring
2021-02-10 22:13   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-15  1:12   ` Frank Rowand
2021-02-15 15:35     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-24 13:00     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-24 23:14       ` Frank Rowand
2021-03-05 18:29         ` Rob Herring
2021-02-10 10:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-11 11:08   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-02-11 11:41     ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-02-11 17:01       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CACRpkdYbOX_RDqwxaiugtYB4vSpSKChvKsPjcB_vv3Q74QeG2Q@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=linus.walleij@linaro.org \
    --cc=bgolaszewski@baylibre.com \
    --cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=frowand.list@gmail.com \
    --cc=hdegoede@redhat.com \
    --cc=info@metux.net \
    --cc=linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=robh+dt@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.