From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB12279 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com (mail-oi0-f52.google.com [209.85.218.52]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96E0F110 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 07:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c15so25030047oig.0 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 00:33:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160809095728.GE30880@suse.de> References: <20160727172636.GM11806@sirena.org.uk> <20160727175829.GG5537@wotan.suse.de> <579A7DFD.60305@metafoo.de> <98eb563b-5d62-74df-692a-f2aa4f7b07b8@xs4all.nl> <20160729111303.GA10376@sirena.org.uk> <20160801190309.GX3296@wotan.suse.de> <20160809095728.GE30880@suse.de> From: Linus Walleij Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:33:33 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmcgUsO2ZGVs?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Oded Gabbay , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , "vegard.nossum@gmail.com" , "rafael.j.wysocki" , Cristina Moraru , Roberto Di Cosmo , Marek Szyprowski , Stefano Zacchiroli , Valentin Rothberg Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Addressing complex dependencies and semantics (v2) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:57 AM, J=C3=B6rg R=C3=B6del wro= te: > one > idea I had was to rework the way build-in modules work. If they are not > linked into the kernel at compile-time, but at boot-time, this problem > would be solved. On the other hand this slows down boot (is this importan= t > when distro-kernels build everything as modules anyway?) I don't know what you mean by "distro-kernels" but the vast majority if not all Android kernels are coming with most stuff built-in, not as modules= , which means that you would slow down all Android tablets and phones on the planet if this becomes slower. So it needs to be as quick or faster :) Yours, Linus Walleij