From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a19Ta-0007g3-8r for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 04:01:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a19TU-0000yD-P0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 04:01:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56541A93.3070008@ilande.co.uk> References: <898E5F5D-EC63-4FC2-A1CC-5F5AEE1D5708@gmail.com> <564249E4.8000604@ilande.co.uk> <564380D5.9050401@ilande.co.uk> <27CBEB2D-071F-424B-B837-93F767CBE6B6@gmail.com> <5643B3D3.1030907@fgznet.ch> <08BF37A4-20D2-4A34-BC26-17B199A160E7@gmail.com> <9C20BDB0-7458-44E8-B3DC-AABD88FE72DB@gmail.com> <20151120033338.GA1554@gate.crashing.org> <5650645E.1070205@ilande.co.uk> <5651ADDD.1020508@ilande.co.uk> <56537E64.5070100@ilande.co.uk> <56541A93.3070008@ilande.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:01:19 -0800 Message-ID: From: Alfonso Gamboa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114167bcd0e1b5052545954b Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [OpenBIOS] [Qemu-ppc] CUDA has problems with Mac OS 10.4 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Mark Cave-Ayland Cc: qemu-devel qemu-devel , BALATON Zoltan , Programmingkid , "qemu-ppc@nongnu.org list:PowerPC" , Andreas Tobler , The OpenBIOS Mailinglist --001a114167bcd0e1b5052545954b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland < mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk> wrote: > On 24/11/15 05:23, Alfonso Gamboa wrote: > > > Here are some links I packaged for the emaculation forum, included is a= n > > image with macsbug installed already. I had success booting to desktop= . > > > > Note: it seems as time goes by, booting several times using the ISO > > images corrupts them, resulting in failed boots with crashes at the boo= t > > splash screen. Crashes will continue until you replace them with fresh > > ones from the zip files. Reasons as to why are unknown at this time. > > Yeah I noticed when booting from a CDROM that my open windows are > remembered across sessions(!). This makes me think that OS 9 thinks the > HFS volume is a HD rather than a CDROM and so mounts it read/write on > boot. How would I find this out in OS9? > > > Resedit, Stuffit, Toast, Disk Copy, utilities in an ISO to mount within > > QEMU: > > http://bebop.gtxent.com/qemu_os9_utilities.iso.zip > > > > MacOS 9.2.2 bootable image(extensions all removed): > > http://bebop.gtxent.com/os922_uni.iso.zip > > > > MacOS 9.2.1 bootable image(extensions all removed): > > http://bebop.gtxent.com/os92_test.iso.zip > > > > MacOS 9.2.1 bootable image with macsbug (extensions all removed): > > http://bebop.gtxent.com/os92_test_macsbug.iso.zip > > These images are definitely helpful, however what would be really useful > to know is exactly what the modules in question do: > > - Multiprocessing (maybe uses a currently unimplemented CPU instruction > to facilitate faster multitasking?) > > - Open Transport ASLM Modules (no idea what these do) > > - Apple Audio Extension Module (is this just a standard sound driver or > other? I did get a backtrace once suggesting that it was trying to > access digital CDROM audio which is why it crashed. Then again if it > thinks that the CDROM is a HD then that's not going to help too much > here either). > > > ATB, > > Mark. > > =E2=80=8BThe "Multiprocessing" folder contains a file named "Apple CPU Plug= ins" of type cpup. Looking at the resource "cpups", it seems to contain code to supplement the OS to support various newer CPUs and architectures. The resources in the file are named (and contain): PowerSurge2PPlugin: "hammerhead" (old clone computers based off multiple PPC 604I believe) G3Plugin: Powerbook1,1 Core99Plugin: uni-north keylargo PowerMac2,1 PowerMac2,2 PowerMac3,4 PowerMac3,5 PowerMac4,1 PowerBook3,3 PowerBook3,4 The "Open Transport ASLM Modules" file seem to be a collection of shared libraries, since many programs, once this file is removed from the extensions folder, refuses to run, for example Apple System Profiler. OTLib$NBPScnr, OTLib$SerIAB are some examples of shared libraries contained within this file. This is verified from the book "Sad Macs, Bombs, and Other Disasters: And what to Do about Them By Ted Landau =E2=80=8B, see https://goo.gl/TVm9Tt"=E2=80=8B I will do more research. Thanks, Alfonso --001a114167bcd0e1b5052545954b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, No= v 24, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ila= nde.co.uk> wrote:
On 24= /11/15 05:23, Alfonso Gamboa wrote:

> Here are some links I packaged for the emaculation forum, included is = an
> image with macsbug installed already.=C2=A0 I had success booting to d= esktop.
>
> Note:=C2=A0 it seems as time goes by, booting several times using the = ISO
> images corrupts them, resulting in failed boots with crashes at the bo= ot
> splash screen.=C2=A0 Crashes will continue until you replace them with= fresh
> ones from the zip files.=C2=A0 Reasons as to why are unknown at this t= ime.

Yeah I noticed when booting from a CDROM that my open windows are remembered across sessions(!). This makes me think that OS 9 thinks the
HFS volume is a HD rather than a CDROM and so mounts it read/write on
boot. How would I find this out in OS9?

> Resedit, Stuffit, Toast, Disk Copy, utilities in an ISO to mount withi= n
> QEMU:
> http://bebop.gtxent.com/qemu_os9_utilities.is= o.zip
>
> MacOS 9.2.2 bootable image(extensions all removed):
> http://bebop.gtxent.com/os922_uni.iso.zip
>
> MacOS 9.2.1 bootable image(extensions all removed):
> http://bebop.gtxent.com/os92_test.iso.zip
>
> MacOS 9.2.1 bootable image with macsbug (extensions all removed):
> http://bebop.gtxent.com/os92_test_macsbug.iso.= zip

These images are definitely helpful, however what would be really us= eful
to know is exactly what the modules in question do:

- Multiprocessing (maybe uses a currently unimplemented CPU instruction
to facilitate faster multitasking?)

- Open Transport ASLM Modules (no idea what these do)

- Apple Audio Extension Module (is this just a standard sound driver or
other? I did get a backtrace once suggesting that it was trying to
access digital CDROM audio which is why it crashed. Then again if it
thinks that the CDROM is a HD then that's not going to help too much here either).


ATB,

Mark.


=E2=80=8BThe "Multiprocessing" folder contains a file nam= ed "Apple CPU Plugins" of type cpup. Looking at the resource &quo= t;cpups", it seems to contain code to supplement the OS to support var= ious newer CPUs and architectures.=C2=A0 The resources in the file are name= d (and contain):

PowerSur= ge2PPlugin:
&qu= ot;hammerhead" (old clone computers based off multiple PPC 604I believ= e)

G3Plugin:
Powerbook1,1

Core99Plugin:
uni-north
keylargo
PowerMac2,1
PowerMac2,2
PowerMac3,4
PowerMac3,5
PowerMac4,1
PowerBook3,3
PowerBook3,4

The "Open Transport ASLM Modules" file seem to be a co= llection of shared libraries, since many programs, once this file is remove= d from the extensions folder, refuses to run, for example Apple System Prof= iler.=C2=A0 OTLib$NBPScnr, OTLib$SerIAB are some examples of shared librari= es contained within this file.=C2=A0 This is verified from the book "<= span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11= .869px;line-height:19.2px">Sad Macs, Bombs, and Other Disasters: And what t= o Do about Them=C2=A0By Ted Landau
=E2=80=8B, see https://goo.gl/TVm9Tt"=E2=80=8B=C2=A0
<= /div>

I will do more research.<= /div>

Thanks,
Alfonso

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