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From: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
To: Nikolay Borisov <n.borisov.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kasan-dev <kasan-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@google.com>
Subject: Re: kasan behavior when built with unsupported compiler
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:54:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACT4Y+Yk+7oZxuLi-X39S5bPH+NrSfLn9zySH0gYELLTE_LF5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1eb0b1ba-3847-9bdc-8f4a-adcd34de3486@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Nikolay Borisov
<n.borisov.lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been chasing a particular UAF as reported by kasan
> (https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2458136.html). However, one
> thing which I took notice of rather lately is that I was building my
> kernel with gcc 4.7.4 which is not supported by kasan as indicated by
> the following string:
>
> scripts/Makefile.kasan:19: Cannot use CONFIG_KASAN:
> -fsanitize=kernel-address is not supported by compiler
>
>
> Nevertheless, the kernel compiles and when I boot it I see the kasan
> splats as per the referenced thread. If, however, I build the kernel
> with a newer compiler version 5.4.0 kasan no longer complains.
>
>
> At this point I'm wondering whether the splats can be due to old
> compiler being used e.g. false positives or are they genuine splats and
> gcc 5 somehow obfuscates them ? Clearly despite the warning about not
> being able to use CONFIG_KASAN it is still working since I'm seeing the
> splats. Is this valid behavior ?


Hi,

Re the message that kasan is not supported while it's still enabled in the end.
I think it's an issue related to gcc plugins. Originally kasan was
supported with 5.0+ thus the message. However, later we extended this
support to 4.5+ with gcc plugins. However, that confusing message from
build system was not fixed. So yes, it's confusing and it's something
to fix, but mostly you can just ignore it.

Re false positives with 4.7. By default I would assume that it is true
positive. Should be easy to check with manual printfs.

Re why 5.4 does not detect it. Difficult to say.
If you confirm that it's a real bug and provide repro instructions,
then I can recheck it with latest gcc. If it's a real bug and the
latest gcc does not detect it, then we need to look more closely at
it. I afraid 5.4 won't be fixed.
It's also possible that it's a false positive in the old compiler (I
think there were some bugs). If so, I would recommend switching to a
newer compiler.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-07 15:35 kasan behavior when built with unsupported compiler Nikolay Borisov
2017-03-07 15:54 ` Dmitry Vyukov [this message]
2017-03-07 16:05   ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-03-07 17:33     ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-03-07 17:51       ` Alexander Potapenko
2017-03-07 20:24         ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-03-07 16:26   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-07 16:40     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-03-08  8:10   ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-03-08 12:34     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-03-09  9:46     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-09  9:47       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-03-09  9:58       ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-03-09 10:16         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-03-09 11:23           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-03-07 16:23 ` Andrey Ryabinin

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