From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_MED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30639C32788 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C042085B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 08:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com header.i=@google.com header.b="MosP9A7J" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org E0C042085B Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=reject dis=none) header.from=google.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728011AbeJKQVB (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:21:01 -0400 Received: from mail-it1-f193.google.com ([209.85.166.193]:52299 "EHLO mail-it1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726135AbeJKQVA (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:21:00 -0400 Received: by mail-it1-f193.google.com with SMTP id 134-v6so12332094itz.2 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:54:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=WYTjmcBhVHuVOQTcuvvNJsnjCtNM5+sLBFRDY4fZcS8=; b=MosP9A7JykCdEjQFdZ6/0dNcjOibRSoSSBHKmy3QOdwJTAq3RQp8P8sdZsjWQHzsIQ hOHz71LTovrzsuJ9X2YRfGzQwDr5rusucU1B5oYI4DlxCAGgIePeAJP+Wqhsmk6oBYsj 6WveNUdz5t8eo8V0k2CmFZvKODp6HnLOaub+RR+Ilj96mvbN1kEYL0L74qX+a0snmIQj 87W/ZJYKI2lEkaqDuYA5OvdjXDO67GPzNPxBFluBf8S7DHZSeh3WDf2zde4LWqoG4CzF jCk+hfN6A/y0ynlkQotKgQXsE0YRpGVTI2aIF7yRb92ztPlvbXib8Iw+VteeNBiYWw8X 5Xyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=WYTjmcBhVHuVOQTcuvvNJsnjCtNM5+sLBFRDY4fZcS8=; b=mHxrkhf9z/o+4Oi4ZFEFhScGl3Su6ADbBDtnRuopj0LhCLMaA30OZaoSRm5zUDVaK0 wYPYJ0gcZDLD5VgyVm7VyRMoXocaNmXi6Tqel3wTbje5Uaw+QPfx1tgy+bKFDUEfze+D Mf4SRM7nVXTLt6Onj4rd0xNJHeMDXrAes7kaFUuS9YsMRmS3QSHywPJGjC5eI34i1uO5 bqhAbLUjSikirde8go7v/yp+TTXCF8o+S7A/vdnP8xZsaQBk/odW4sppxsUJrAK7jocd gOBa92FbFt1wvEzfiMM5YFh+L2nyIhpmKcPtKsiVL3Kull8Klboh3orvOhcUcx7/JsA6 cIQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogrCq0kEiwHipQfWQk8u7WBvXO3iBVJAM7ZkdTAbhNYRrQE2fkX nVSpFYfYb23ZWe7P9HtfyDcrorcgWnuDg5fHUeq4KQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62zWxv2ystcn6yyb/PgRcJ+6OypxmDbOBJsdZvUIWD3LoisUGVC796YgSAhE55MFUMxprnod+IZdC3xNPVNmmY= X-Received: by 2002:a02:9716:: with SMTP id x22-v6mr509431jai.82.1539248081097; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:54:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a02:1003:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 01:54:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20181008142300.3aacaabe@gandalf.local.home> From: Dmitry Vyukov Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:54:20 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Announce] LPC 2018: Testing and Fuzzing Microconference To: Dhaval Giani Cc: Steven Rostedt , Sasha Levin , LKML , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Alice Ferrazzi , Kevin Hilman , Tim Bird , Laura Abbott , gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk, "Carpenter,Dan" , Matthew Wilcox , knut.omang@oracle.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Dhaval Giani wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 11:23 AM Steven Rostedt wrote: >> >> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 19:02:51 +0200 >> Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Dhaval Giani wrote: >> > > Hi folks, >> > > >> > > Sasha and I are pleased to announce the Testing and Fuzzing track at >> > > LPC [ 1 ]. We are planning to continue the discussions from last >> > > year's microconference [2]. Many discussions from the Automated >> > > Testing Summit [3] will also continue, and a final agenda will come up >> > > only soon after that. >> > > >> > > Suggested Topics >> > > >> > > - Syzbot/syzkaller >> > > - ATS >> > > - Distro/stable testing >> > > - kernelci >> > > - kernelci auto bisection >> > > - Unit testing framework >> > > >> > > We look forward to other interesting topics for this microconference >> > > as a reply to this email. >> > >> > Hi Dhaval and Sasha, >> > >> > My syzbot talk wasn't accepted to main track, so I would like to do >> > more or less full-fledged talk on the microconf. Is it possible? >> >> Hi Dmitry, >> >> Note, microconfs are not for full-fledged talks. They are to be >> discussion focused. You can have a 5-10 minute presentation that leads >> up to discussion of future work, but we like to refrain from any talks >> about what was done if there's nothing to go forward with. > > Dmitiry, > > Can you clarify the scope of what you want to discuss during the > microconference? Further to what Steven said, we don't want > presentations (So 3, maybe 4 slides). We want discussions about future > work. > > Thanks! > Dhaval Hi Steven, Dhaval, Acknowledged. Then smaller topic that would benefit from discussion are: the main one being: 1. syzbot: developer process; unfixed bugs; bug triage; what's working? what's not? why? how can we make more parts work? collecting feedback 2. how to increase test coverage/find more bugs, in particular: - adding manual spot KASAN/KMSAN checks into kernel codebase - stubbing hardware/external inputs to kernel for testing - description of kernel interfaces (again) 3. dealing with kernel console output mess - intermixed/split lines - understand when/how kernel crashed - and where is that message - crash identity