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From: Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] remove CONFIG_ANDROID
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 21:25:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_TJvcNOx1C5csdkMCAPVmX4gLcRWkxKO8Vm=isgjgM-MowwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YrzujZuJyfymC0LP@zx2c4.com>

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 5:30 PM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
>
> Hey again,
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 2:24 AM Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com> wrote:
> > 1) Introduce a simple CONFIG_PM_CONTINUOUS_AUTOSLEEPING Kconfig thing
> >    with lots of discouraging help text.
> >
> > 2) Go with the /sys/power tunable and bikeshed the naming of that a bit
> >    to get it to something that reflects this better, and document it as
> >    being undesirable except for Android phones.
>
> One other quick thought, which I had mentioned earlier to Kalesh:
>
> 3) Make the semantics a process holding open a file descriptor, rather
>    than writing 0/1 into a file. It'd be called /sys/power/
>    userspace_autosleep_ctrl, or something, and it'd enable this behavior
>    while it's opened. And maybe down the line somebody will want to add
>    ioctls to it for a different purpose. This way it's less of a tunable
>    and more of an indication that there's a userspace app doing/controlling
>    something.
>
> This idea (3) may be a lot of added complexity for basically nothing,
> but it might fit the usage semantics concerns a bit better than (2). But
> anyway, just an idea. Any one of those three are fine with me.

Two concerns John raised:
  1) Adding new ABI we need to maintain
  2) Having unclear config options

Another idea, I think, is to add the Kconfig option as
CONFIG_SUSPEND_SKIP_RNG_RESEED? Similar to existing
CONFIG_SUSPEND_SKIP_SYNC and I think it would address those concerns.

--Kalesh

> Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-30  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29 15:01 remove CONFIG_ANDROID Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:01 ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 15:27   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 16:07   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:09   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:10     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:13       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:15         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:25           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:30             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:38               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:52                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:00                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:10                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:19                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-06-29 17:30                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:35                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 17:42                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 18:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:56                   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-29 17:19                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:34                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 19:05                   ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-29 19:41                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-06-29 20:47                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 22:26                       ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-29 23:02                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:19                           ` Kalesh Singh
2022-06-30  0:36                             ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30  0:50                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  1:44                                 ` Joe Perches
2022-06-30  3:02                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 23:52                           ` John Stultz
2022-06-30  0:24                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  0:30                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30  4:25                                 ` Kalesh Singh [this message]
2022-06-30 10:05                                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-30 17:12                                     ` John Stultz
2022-06-30 17:24                                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-07-01 20:22                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-07-01 20:53                                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 16:34           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-29 16:45               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-06-29 17:04                 ` Paul E. McKenney

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