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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>
Cc: trini@konsulko.com, sjg@chromium.org, u-boot@lists.denx.de,
	 michal.simek@xilinx.com, xypron.glpk@gmx.de,
	daniel.schwierzeck@gmail.com,  jaeckel-floss@eyet-services.de,
	marek.behun@nic.cz,  lukas.auer@aisec.fraunhofer.de,
	dennis@ausil.us
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 31/41] bootstd: Add an implementation of EFI boot
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 20:08:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_iWjJHjxTVZ7TnH0TG8LvKo6WmzUQhboVheyRCfZZfUYD=nA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3ca9ec139f3c351@bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl>

Hi Mark,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 19:37, Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
> > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:42:45 +0300
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Oct 2021 at 15:39, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 08:45:06AM +0300, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:34:40PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi Ilias,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 08:48, Ilias Apalodimas
> > > > > <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 08:09:04AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Ilias,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 02:36, Ilias Apalodimas
> > > > > > > <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 02:27, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Add a bootmeth driver which handles EFI boot, using EFI_LOADER.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In effect, this provides the same functionality as the 'bootefi' command
> > > > > > > > > and shares the same code. But the interface into it is via a bootmeth,
> > > > > > > > > so it does not require any special scripts, etc.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > For now this requires the 'bootefi' command be enabled. Future work may
> > > > > > > > > tidy this up so that it can be used without CONFIG_CMDLINE being enabled.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll leave this up to Heinrich, but personally I wouldn't include this
> > > > > > > > patch at all. EFI has it's bootmgr which can handle booting just fine.
> > > > > > > > I don't see why we should duplicate the functionality.  The new boot
> > > > > > > > method can just have an entry called 'EFI' and then let the existing
> > > > > > > > EFI code to decide.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is needed so that EFI boot is actually invoked. If bootmgr starts
> > > > > > > being used then it can still be invoked from standard boot. The point
> > > > > > > is that there is a standard way of booting that supports EFI and other
> > > > > > > things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This patch tries to reason about the default naming EFI imposes on it's
> > > > > > boot files. distro_efi_read_bootflow() will try to find files following the
> > > > > > EFI naming convention (e.g bootaarch64.efi, bootarm.efi etc).  If those are
> > > > > > found it will try to boot them right?  That's not the right thing to do though.
> > > > > > On the EFI spec these files are tried if no Boot#### variables are found.
> > > > > > So we can get rid of this entirely,  add a dummy entry on the bootflow that
> > > > > > says 'boot the efi manager' (which is what the next patch does).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The efibootmgr then will check Boot#### variables and if none are found,
> > > > > > it's going to fallback into loading bootaarch64.efi, bootarm.efi etc
> > > > > > essentially offering identical functionality.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes that's fine, and when EFI's boot manager is in use I have a driver
> > > > > for that too, as you can see in the other patch. We may need to adjust
> > > > > the order, by the sound of it, if it needs to run before EFI things.
> > > > > But that is easy enough.
> > > >
> > > > That's the point though.  I don't want to have 2 different ways of booting EFI
> > > > as I don't see any benefit.  Do you?
> > >
> > > Unless we're saying that "bootefi bootmgr" is ready to be used always
> > > and without further pre-req support (which I don't think is quite the
> > > case, since we don't have persistent EFI vars, so can't set Boot###
> > > persistently or via userspace) _something_ is likely needed to either
> > > set those, or scan a configurable list of where, to find the EFI
> > > payload.
> >
> > The efibootmgr will try to boot bootaa64.efi, bootarm.efi etc if
> > Boot### variables are not found.  The Boot#### themselves are
> > obviously configurable from U-Boot(at boot time).  Since this method
> > doesn't allow Linux to edit the boot options either, is it something
> > we need?  Since distros usually name their SHIM as bootaa64.efi, I am
> > afraid we are adding code that we will rarely (if at all) ever use.
>
> Hi Ilias,
>
> I'm still seeing:
>
>   Device 0: Vendor: Lexar    Rev: 1100 Prod: USB Flash Drive
>               Type: Removable Hard Disk
>               Capacity: 30526.0 MB = 29.8 GB (62517248 x 512)
>   ... is now current device
>   Scanning usb 0:1...
>   ** Unable to read file / **
>   Failed to load '/'
>   libfdt fdt_check_header(): FDT_ERR_BADMAGIC
>   BootOrder not defined
>   EFI boot manager: Cannot load any image
>   Found EFI removable media binary efi/boot/bootaa64.efi
>   170694 bytes read in 9 ms (18.1 MiB/s)
>   libfdt fdt_check_header(): FDT_ERR_BADMAGIC
>   Booting /efi\boot\bootaa64.efi
>
> So it doesn't seem that efibootmgr will try to bootaa64.efi just yet.

Yea Akashi-san already corrected me on this one.  I was somehow under
the impression we do that already, while it's the distro bootcmd doing
that.  In any case it would make much more sense for me to add the
missing pieces in the efibootmgr, instead of an extra app.  That way
we can either cleanup the distro bootmcd or skip this patch when
Simon's proposal gets resubmitted.

Thanks!
/Ilias
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2021-10-23 23:25 ` [PATCH v2 00/41] Initial implementation of standard boot Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:25   ` [PATCH v2 01/41] lib: Add a way to find the postiion of a trailing number Simon Glass
2021-10-27 12:13     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-23 23:25   ` [PATCH v2 02/41] Makefile: Allow LTO to be disabled for a build Simon Glass
2021-10-27  8:50     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-27 12:21       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-27 13:13         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-31 23:46           ` Simon Glass
2021-11-01 21:58             ` Tom Rini
2021-11-04  2:49               ` Simon Glass
2021-11-04 14:55                 ` Tom Rini
2021-11-04 15:12                   ` Simon Glass
2021-11-04 16:44                     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-31 23:45         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:25   ` [PATCH v2 03/41] test/py: Allow passing input to a program Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:25   ` [PATCH v2 04/41] sandbox: Support unmapping a file Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:25   ` [PATCH v2 05/41] sandbox: mmc: Support a backing file Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 06/41] mmc: Allow for children other than the block device Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 07/41] mbr: Correct verification check Simon Glass
2021-10-27  7:41     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-11-24 22:22     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 08/41] disk: part_dos: Fix a NULL pointer error Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 09/41] common: Allow a smaller console-recording pre-reloc Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 10/41] dm: core: Add tests for stringlist functions Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 11/41] dm: core: Fix handling of uclass pre_unbind method Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 12/41] dm: core: Fix up string-function documentation Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 13/41] dm: core: Add a way to obtain a string list Simon Glass
2021-10-26 19:20     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-11-24 22:22       ` Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:23       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 14/41] dm: core: Allow finding children / uclasses by partial name Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 15/41] dm: core: Add a way to count the devices in a uclass Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 16/41] sandbox: Enable HEXDUMP for sandbox_flattree Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 17/41] test/py: Relax the naming rules for unit tests Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 18/41] test/py: Raise a ValueError if a command fails Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 19/41] bootstd: Add the concept of a bootflow Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 20/41] bootstd: Add the bootstd uclass and core implementation Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 21/41] bootstd: Add the bootdev uclass Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 22/41] bootstd: Add the bootmeth uclass and helpers Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 23/41] bootstd: Add support for bootflows Simon Glass
2021-10-27  7:37     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2022-03-12  2:24       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 24/41] bootstd: Add a bootdev command Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 25/41] bootstd: Add a bootflow ommand Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 26/41] bootstd: Add a bootmeth command Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 27/41] bootstd: Add an implementation of distro boot Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 28/41] bootstd: mmc: Add a bootdev driver Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 29/41] bootstd: ethernet: " Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 30/41] bootstd: Add an implementation of distro PXE boot Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 31/41] bootstd: Add an implementation of EFI boot Simon Glass
2021-10-27  8:35     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-27 14:09       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-27 14:47         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-27 18:34           ` Simon Glass
2021-10-29  5:45             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-29 12:39               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-29 13:42                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-29 14:03                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2021-10-29 14:39                     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-10-29 16:37                   ` Mark Kettenis
2021-10-29 17:08                     ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2021-10-27 11:57     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-27 14:08       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 32/41] bootstd: Add a system bootdev for strange boot methods Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 33/41] bootstd: Add an implementation of EFI bootmgr Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 34/41] bootstd: Add a sandbox bootmeth driver Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 35/41] bootstd: usb: Add a bootdev driver Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 36/41] test: fastboot: Avoid using mmc1 Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 37/41] test: dm: Restart USB before assuming it is stopped Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 38/41] bootstd: Add tests for bootstd including all uclasses Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 39/41] bootstd: Add setup for the bootflow tests Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 40/41] bootstd: doc: Add documentation Simon Glass
2021-10-23 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 41/41] RFC: Switch rpi over to use bootstd Simon Glass
2021-10-28 15:13     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 16:43     ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 17:16       ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 17:29         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-23 23:27   ` [PATCH v2 00/41] Initial implementation of standard boot Simon Glass
2021-10-27 11:38   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-27 14:11     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 17:37       ` Peter Robinson
2021-10-28 17:47         ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 17:50           ` Peter Robinson
2021-10-28 17:59             ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 18:09               ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-10-28 18:13                 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 18:17               ` François Ozog
2021-10-28 18:27                 ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 18:28                   ` François Ozog
2021-10-28 21:40           ` Mark Kettenis
2021-10-27 15:20     ` François Ozog
2021-10-27 18:33     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 16:27   ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 17:29     ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 17:52       ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 18:13         ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 18:36           ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 18:48             ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 19:19               ` Tom Rini
2021-10-28 22:22                 ` Simon Glass
2021-10-28 22:50                   ` Tom Rini
2021-10-29  1:13                     ` Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 17/41] test/py: Relax the naming rules for unit tests Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 18/41] test/py: Raise a ValueError if a command fails Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 16/41] sandbox: Enable HEXDUMP for sandbox_flattree Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 15/41] dm: core: Add a way to count the devices in a uclass Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 14/41] dm: core: Allow finding children / uclasses by partial name Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 11/41] dm: core: Fix handling of uclass pre_unbind method Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 12/41] dm: core: Fix up string-function documentation Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 08/41] disk: part_dos: Fix a NULL pointer error Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 09/41] common: Allow a smaller console-recording pre-reloc Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 10/41] dm: core: Add tests for stringlist functions Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 06/41] mmc: Allow for children other than the block device Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 05/41] sandbox: mmc: Support a backing file Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 04/41] sandbox: Support unmapping a file Simon Glass
2021-11-24 22:22   ` [PATCH v2 03/41] test/py: Allow passing input to a program Simon Glass

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