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MORIN" X-Mailman-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PzyTjsXlP+yCgUvQc8vjI8VY6FrV7C/GKCHn+XwhCIU=; b=eWoeIHnQgwig6banfN9Thb2p8caY9+bmBQiLccWOqYmAl5cxOgChS3ASW1Nf9Vetcz yFGkau617Z0KrqKR1jyuECvi01JgQaYUXlSn9qBIGAc7VtWgish4MZiHgy5A1hU6EEoJ y8saJuxaPmx59vllVy3gUmlGXtVkWcCumsvnN23XQST40R0+SZ05BQCIfd3k6X9BexGn ycPnM63b7Fj2tSH/VFeAcJ/uFCWaGqAJXN/X2Mr3Ei6JhlbSSAZFIHSdeufQmEZqVcoS +k8ajBZJ4xUu84Q9/AMxa4bn1nFs0O9CKYGxKwhtRDDEq+kp+Sri37R9uJ1CCy1tXyrk Mnkw== X-Mailman-Original-Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=20210112 header.b=eWoeIHnQ Subject: Re: [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/2] package/systemd: allow package to be used without init system X-BeenThere: buildroot@buildroot.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion and development of buildroot List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: buildroot Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: buildroot-bounces@buildroot.org Sender: "buildroot" Am Di., 19. Juli 2022 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Yann E. MORIN : > > Norbert, All, > > On 2022-07-19 15:16 +0200, Norbert Lange spake thusly: > > Allow systemd to be built as normal package, this for example > > allows building systemd-boot without any init system. > > How has the situation with upstream evolved since last time the topic > was raised here: > https://lore.kernel.org/buildroot/cover.1545814334.git.yann.morin.1998@free.fr/#t > and especially the sub-thread: > https://lore.kernel.org/buildroot/d38239f86f99924e87dcb6e045b2de3ac0cb435f.1545814334.git.yann.morin.1998@free.fr/ > > As far as I know (and understand), upstream has decided to tie the build > of systemd-boot (formerly the standalone gummiboot) to the build of the > rest of the systemd suite; they did not accept to make it possible to > only build systemd-boot to use it outside the systemd ecosystem. > > From Buildroot's perspective, allowing to build systemd without it being > an init system, and without the possibility to just build systemd-boot, > is asking for troubles down the line. > > The triviality of your patch does not make it possible to only just > build systemd-boot; instead, it still builds the whole systemd suite, > which hints that upstream did not make it possible to do separate > builds. This was an example, and I do just that, even you built more than just systemd-boot, picking "no init" speeds things up a bit. > So, unless things have evolved substantially, I am not very fond of > alowing this, and stand by the decision that was made back then (i.e. > abide by upstream decision and tie systemd-boot to the systemd > ecosystem). I want to build systemd without using it as init system. Is there any reason to artificially prohibit that? It's just a regular package for me. Norbert _______________________________________________ buildroot mailing list buildroot@buildroot.org https://lists.buildroot.org/mailman/listinfo/buildroot