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From: Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/18] efi: stub: Pass EFI GOP information to U-Boot payload
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 15:44:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEUhbmU7UfnzGh4k-PtrmPavXymABeKh-BULUJOxV8JUs2g_gg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95f403de-6ae3-4243-dbb9-128b97c8bb04@suse.de>

Hi Alex,

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
> On 06/11/2018 08:01 AM, Bin Meng wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11.06.18 01:29, Bin Meng wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:16 AM, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10.06.18 15:25, Bin Meng wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If UEFI BIOS has the graphics output protocol (GOP), let's pass its
>>>>>> information to U-Boot payload so that U-Boot can utilize it (eg:
>>>>>> an EFI framebuffer driver).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Bin Meng <bmeng.cn@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can't the FB drive determine all of this on its own and just fail
>>>>> probe if no GOP protocol can be found?
>>>>>
>>>> It cannot. Once U-Boot payload is running, the boot services are gone.
>>>> There is no way to determine the GOP protocol.
>>>
>>> Interesting. Is there a particular reason you're not preserving boot
>>> services?
>>>
>> This is EFI payload support with CONFIG_EFI_STUB. Preserving boot
>> services is EFI application, with CONFIG_EFI_APP. For example, see
>> serial_efi.c which is the serial driver that uses EFI's boot services
>> to output characters on the serial port.
>
>
> Oh, I see. That makes sense now.
>
> Do people actually need CONFIG_EFI_STUB then?

I think you wanted to say: Do people actually need CONFIG_EFI_APP
then? CONFIG_EFI_STUB is more useful than CONFIG_EFI_APP. The
application support is very limited.

As the README.u-boot_on_efi says:

Running U-Boot on EFI is useful in several situations:

- You have EFI running on a board but U-Boot does not natively support it
fully yet. You can boot into U-Boot from EFI and use that until U-Boot is
fully ported

- You need to use an EFI implementation (e.g. UEFI) because your vendor
requires it in order to provide support

- You plan to use coreboot to boot into U-Boot but coreboot support does
not currently exist for your platform. In the meantime you can use U-Boot
on EFI and then move to U-Boot on coreboot when ready

- You use EFI but want to experiment with a simpler alternative like U-Boot

Right now, I have one Intel SkyLake board, and before I get a native
U-Boot up and running as the 1st stage bootloader on this board, I can
run U-Boot as the EFI payload to experiment something, which is very
handy.

>
>>
>>> It might be quite handy to reuse UEFI block interfaces for example. It
>>> might also be useful to preserve (parts of?) the memory map so we don't
>>> overwrite random SMM code for example.
>>>
>>> Maybe I misunderstand the purpose of the UEFI U-Boot support though ;).
>>
>> Looks there is some misunderstanding around the EFI payload support.
>
>
> Yes, I have to admit that I never really cared enough about it to read its
> documentation though :).

Yep, this sometimes confuses people :)

Regards,
Bin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-11  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-10 13:24 [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/18] x86: efi: Fixes and enhancements to application and payload support Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/18] x86: doc: Fix reference to EFI doc in U-Boot Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:39   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-10 14:01     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 17:46       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/18] x86: Conditionally build the pinctrl_ich6 driver Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:53   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/18] x86: efi: app: Fix broken EFI application Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:53   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 17:18   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-11 23:19     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/18] x86: efi: payload: Enforce toolchain to generate 64-bit EFI payload stub codes Bin Meng
2018-06-10 19:11   ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-11  2:34     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11  5:55       ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-11  6:05         ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:53   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/18] efi: Fix efi_uintn_t for 64-bit EFI payload Bin Meng
2018-06-10 14:02   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-10 14:30     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 18:17       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-10 23:36         ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 15:31           ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-11 16:35             ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 18:35               ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2018-06-11  9:11   ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 19:43     ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/18] dm: pci: Make ranges dt property optional Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:53   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/18] dm: pci: Use a 1:1 mapping for bus <-> phy addresses Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/18] x86: efi: Refactor the directory of EFI app and payload support Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/18] x86: efi: payload: Add arch_cpu_init() Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/18] x86: efi: payload: Minor clean up on error message output Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-12 13:07     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/18] x86: Add generic EFI payload support Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/18] x86: Drop QEMU-specific " Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/18] x86: baytrail: Drop EFI-specific test logics Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/18] efi: stub: Pass EFI GOP information to U-Boot payload Bin Meng
2018-06-10 19:16   ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-10 23:29     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11  5:52       ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-11  6:01         ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11  7:34           ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-11  7:44             ` Bin Meng [this message]
2018-06-11  8:33               ` Alexander Graf
2018-06-11  9:02                 ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:53   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 15/18] dm: video: Add an EFI framebuffer driver Bin Meng
2018-06-10 15:52   ` Anatolij Gustschin
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 16/18] x86: efi: payload: Add EFI framebuffer driver support Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 17/18] x86: Rename efi-x86 target to efi-x86_app Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-11 15:50     ` Bin Meng
2018-06-10 13:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 18/18] x86: efi: app: Display correct CPU info during boot Bin Meng
2018-06-11 14:54   ` Simon Glass
2018-06-11 14:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/18] x86: efi: Fixes and enhancements to application and payload support Simon Glass
2018-06-11 15:53   ` Bin Meng
2018-06-11 19:38     ` Simon Glass

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