* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 18:54 ` Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21 Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-19 20:27 ` Marek Vasut
2021-01-19 23:44 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-20 1:55 ` Bin Meng
` (3 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2021-01-19 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
Hi,
> Thank you for attending!
>
> Full notes at [1]
>
> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>
> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>
> Notes:
> [all] Introductions
> [all] Timing of call
> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> for East Asia
> - Simon might send out survey
> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> [Heinrich] Online docs
> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>
> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
- Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
- Does this have to be every two weeks ? Why two weeks ?
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2021-01-19 20:27 ` Marek Vasut
@ 2021-01-19 23:44 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-20 0:25 ` Alex Sadovsky
2021-01-20 15:05 ` Marek Vasut
0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-19 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Marek,
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 13:27, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
>
> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi,
>
> > Thank you for attending!
> >
> > Full notes at [1]
> >
> > Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >
> > Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> > Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >
> > Notes:
> > [all] Introductions
> > [all] Timing of call
> > - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> > for East Asia
> > - Simon might send out survey
> > - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> > [Simon] New sequence numbers
> > [Heinrich] Online docs
> > - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> > - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
> >
> > Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
> >
> > [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>
> - Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
>
> - Does this have to be every two weeks ? Why two weeks ?
Do you mean it should be more frequent or less?
Regards,
Simon
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 23:44 ` Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-20 0:25 ` Alex Sadovsky
2021-01-20 15:05 ` Marek Vasut
1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Alex Sadovsky @ 2021-01-20 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Simon,
I think I should add my $0.02 here.
> We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
> What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
Jitsi is a free and lightweight solution: it's free/open-source and there's also a free public server (more than one, strictly speaking: 1 official cluster + several 3rd party public servers).
It doesn't require installing anything (just a web browser), it doesn't require registration (although anyone can use self-hosted instance and configure access control lists as they wish), it doesn't limit meeting duration. As far as I know, it's also not blocked in China (while most commercial solutions are blocked for years, google products are among them, although they're popular and VPN helps sometimes), this is beneficial too.
I wanted to suggest Jitsi during previous discussion as I'm using it for several years and it does its job pretty well (just one job, though: no built-in file sharing, no fancy chat formatting, just audio+video meetings and plain-text chat).
It's quite sad for me to see so many people prefering that proprietary Z**m thing and struggling with its limitations last year while there are mostly better free products that are enough for most use-cases but just didn't get enough attention.
Cheers,
Alex
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 23:44 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-20 0:25 ` Alex Sadovsky
@ 2021-01-20 15:05 ` Marek Vasut
2021-01-21 8:14 ` Stefano Babic
2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
1 sibling, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Marek Vasut @ 2021-01-20 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/20/21 12:44 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Marek,
Hi,
[...]
>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>
>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>
>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>
>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> [all] Introductions
>>> [all] Timing of call
>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>> for East Asia
>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>>
>>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>>>
>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>>
>> - Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
>
> We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
>
> What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
It seems Alex covered this part already pretty well.
>> - Does this have to be every two weeks ? Why two weeks ?
>
> Do you mean it should be more frequent or less?
I think we should agree on what is best in a discussion.
In my opinion, once a month is enough.
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 15:05 ` Marek Vasut
@ 2021-01-21 8:14 ` Stefano Babic
2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Babic @ 2021-01-21 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Simon, Tom,
On 20.01.21 16:05, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 1/20/21 12:44 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi Marek,
>
> Hi,
>
> [...]
>
>>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>
>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>
>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>> for East Asia
>>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>>>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>>>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>>>
>>>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>>>>
>>>
>>> - Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
>>
>> We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
>>
>> What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
>
> It seems Alex covered this part already pretty well.
>
Indeed - DENX has already set a server with Jitsi for videoconference,
and we are actively using to communicate with customers. DENX can offer
to host the meeting for U-Boot (Wolfgang has already agreed) - we have
all advantages reported by Marek and Alex. Simon, Tom: is it this
suitable for you ? We can switch to Jitsi since next meeting.
Best regards,
Stefano
--
=====================================================================
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: +49-8142-66989-53 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: sbabic at denx.de
=====================================================================
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 8:14 ` Stefano Babic
@ 2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-28 9:24 ` Stefano Babic
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-27 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Stefano,
Thank you for the offer!
What are the advantages of hosting the meeting on a private server?
Regards,
Simon
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 01:14, Stefano Babic <sbabic@denx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon, Tom,
>
> On 20.01.21 16:05, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > On 1/20/21 12:44 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >> Hi Marek,
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you for attending!
> >>>>
> >>>> Full notes at [1]
> >>>>
> >>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >>>>
> >>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> >>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >>>>
> >>>> Notes:
> >>>> [all] Introductions
> >>>> [all] Timing of call
> >>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> >>>> for East Asia
> >>>> - Simon might send out survey
> >>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> >>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> >>>> [Heinrich] Online docs
> >>>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> >>>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
> >>>>
> >>>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> - Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
> >>
> >> We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
> >>
> >> What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
> >
> > It seems Alex covered this part already pretty well.
> >
>
> Indeed - DENX has already set a server with Jitsi for videoconference,
> and we are actively using to communicate with customers. DENX can offer
> to host the meeting for U-Boot (Wolfgang has already agreed) - we have
> all advantages reported by Marek and Alex. Simon, Tom: is it this
> suitable for you ? We can switch to Jitsi since next meeting.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefano
>
> --
> =====================================================================
> DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk
> HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
> Phone: +49-8142-66989-53 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: sbabic at denx.de
> =====================================================================
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-28 9:24 ` Stefano Babic
2021-02-09 4:29 ` Simon Glass
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Babic @ 2021-01-28 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Simon,
On 27.01.21 22:31, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Stefano,
>
> Thank you for the offer!
>
> What are the advantages of hosting the meeting on a private server?
No, I do not see any special advantage - I will just be happy (as Marek)
if we can nuse a FOSS project as Jitsi for communication. IMHO it is ok
to use the public server provided by jitsi.
Regards,
Stefano
--
=====================================================================
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: +49-8142-66989-53 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: sbabic at denx.de
=====================================================================
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-28 9:24 ` Stefano Babic
@ 2021-02-09 4:29 ` Simon Glass
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-02-09 4:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Stefano.
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 at 02:24, Stefano Babic <sbabic@denx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> On 27.01.21 22:31, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Stefano,
> >
> > Thank you for the offer!
> >
> > What are the advantages of hosting the meeting on a private server?
>
> No, I do not see any special advantage - I will just be happy (as Marek)
> if we can nuse a FOSS project as Jitsi for communication. IMHO it is ok
> to use the public server provided by jitsi.
OK well we tried a jitsi call last week and it seemed to work fine.
Regards,
Simon
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 15:05 ` Marek Vasut
2021-01-21 8:14 ` Stefano Babic
@ 2021-01-27 21:31 ` Simon Glass
1 sibling, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-27 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi,
I have updated the invitation to include a jitsi call. We can try that
and fall back to Google Meet if something goes wrong.
I have also added a call in Asia timezone. Please see the notes[1] for details.
Regards,
Simon
[1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 08:05, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
>
> On 1/20/21 12:44 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Marek,
>
> Hi,
>
> [...]
>
> >> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> Thank you for attending!
> >>>
> >>> Full notes at [1]
> >>>
> >>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >>>
> >>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> >>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >>>
> >>> Notes:
> >>> [all] Introductions
> >>> [all] Timing of call
> >>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> >>> for East Asia
> >>> - Simon might send out survey
> >>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> >>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> >>> [Heinrich] Online docs
> >>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> >>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
> >>>
> >>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
> >>
> >> - Can we use e.g. jitsi meet next time , or even better IRC ?
> >
> > We already IRC a lot. This is partly about getting to know each other.
> >
> > What is the benefit of jitsi? I believe I am permitted to use it,
>
> It seems Alex covered this part already pretty well.
>
> >> - Does this have to be every two weeks ? Why two weeks ?
> >
> > Do you mean it should be more frequent or less?
>
> I think we should agree on what is best in a discussion.
>
> In my opinion, once a month is enough.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 28+ messages in thread
* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 18:54 ` Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21 Simon Glass
2021-01-19 20:27 ` Marek Vasut
@ 2021-01-20 1:55 ` Bin Meng
2021-01-21 10:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-20 7:46 ` Michal Simek
` (2 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Bin Meng @ 2021-01-20 1:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:54 AM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for attending!
>
> Full notes at [1]
>
> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>
> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>
> Notes:
> [all] Introductions
> [all] Timing of call
> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> for East Asia
> - Simon might send out survey
> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> [Heinrich] Online docs
> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
Goot to see we have online docs configured to display the U-Boot
documentation. Previously I suggested we have denx.de host this, but
looks we never went that way.
> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
I am not sure what this means. Is the https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
setup to build daily?
>
> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>
Regards,
Bin
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2021-01-20 1:55 ` Bin Meng
@ 2021-01-21 10:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-01-21 10:48 ` Michal Simek
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Heinrich Schuchardt @ 2021-01-21 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 20.01.21 02:55, Bin Meng wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:54 AM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for attending!
>>
>> Full notes at [1]
>>
>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>
>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>
>> Notes:
>> [all] Introductions
>> [all] Timing of call
>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>> for East Asia
>> - Simon might send out survey
>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>
> Goot to see we have online docs configured to display the U-Boot
> documentation. Previously I suggested we have denx.de host this, but
> looks we never went that way.
>
>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>
> I am not sure what this means. Is the https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> setup to build daily?
Building u-boot.readthedocs.io
==============================
Building https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/ is controlled by file
.readthedocs.yml.
Whenever Tom pushes to https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot.git branch
master the documentation is built. Building for a tag must be triggered
manually on page https://readthedocs.org/projects/u-boot/.
Currently Tom and I have administrator privileges for the project on
readthedocs.io.
Requiring documentation
=======================
Many changes that we do are worth being documented:
* new or changed commands
* new boards
* API changes
The idea is that the maintainers should push the contributors to provide
documentation for relevant changes and possibly reject patch sets with
missing documentation.
Best regards
Heinrich
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 10:41 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
@ 2021-01-21 10:48 ` Michal Simek
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-21 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/21/21 11:41 AM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> On 20.01.21 02:55, Bin Meng wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:54 AM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>
>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>
>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>
>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> [all] Introductions
>>> [all] Timing of call
>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>> for East Asia
>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>>
>> Goot to see we have online docs configured to display the U-Boot
>> documentation. Previously I suggested we have denx.de host this, but
>> looks we never went that way.
>>
>>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>
>> I am not sure what this means. Is the https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>> setup to build daily?
>
> Building u-boot.readthedocs.io
> ==============================
>
> Building https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/ is controlled by file
> .readthedocs.yml.
>
> Whenever Tom pushes to https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot.git branch
> master the documentation is built. Building for a tag must be triggered
> manually on page https://readthedocs.org/projects/u-boot/.
>
> Currently Tom and I have administrator privileges for the project on
> readthedocs.io.
>
> Requiring documentation
> =======================
>
> Many changes that we do are worth being documented:
>
> * new or changed commands
> * new boards
> * API changes
>
> The idea is that the maintainers should push the contributors to provide
> documentation for relevant changes and possibly reject patch sets with
> missing documentation.
Please extend tools to catch this. I use patman which calls checkpatch.
When maintainers get reminders situation will improve.
Not sure if make sense to add any rule to gitlab CI to fail but that's
also one way to go.
Thanks,
Michal
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 18:54 ` Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21 Simon Glass
2021-01-19 20:27 ` Marek Vasut
2021-01-20 1:55 ` Bin Meng
@ 2021-01-20 7:46 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-20 15:44 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-20 10:08 ` Igor Opaniuk
2021-01-20 23:18 ` Jaehoon Chung
4 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-20 7:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi,
On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for attending!
>
> Full notes at [1]
>
> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>
> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>
> Notes:
> [all] Introductions
> [all] Timing of call
> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> for East Asia
> - Simon might send out survey
> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> [Simon] New sequence numbers
I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
i2c 0 [ + ] i2c_cdns | |-- i2c at ff030000
gpio 1 [ + ] pca953x | | |-- gpio at 20
i2c_mux 0 [ + ] pca954x | | `-- i2c-mux at 74
i2c 1 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 0
i2c_eeprom 0 [ + ] i2c_eeprom | | | `--
eeprom at 54
i2c 2 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 1
i2c_generi 0 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_20
i2c_generi 1 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_6c
i2c_generi 2 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
generic_74
i2c 3 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 2
i2c_generi 3 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_13
i2c_generi 4 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_14
i2c_generi 5 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_20
i2c_generi 6 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_43
i2c_generi 7 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_44
i2c_generi 8 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
generic_74
i2c 4 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 3
i2c_generi 9 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_0
i2c_generi 10 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_20
i2c_generi 11 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_40
i2c_generi 12 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
generic_74
i2c 5 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 5
i2c_generi 13 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
generic_20
i2c_generi 14 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
generic_74
i2c 6 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | `--
i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 7
i2c_generi 15 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
generic_19
i2c_generi 16 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
generic_20
i2c_generi 17 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
generic_36
i2c_generi 18 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
generic_37
i2c_generi 19 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
generic_51
i2c_generi 20 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | `--
generic_74
Thanks,
Michal
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 7:46 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-20 15:44 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-20 15:50 ` Michal Simek
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-20 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Michal,
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thank you for attending!
> >
> > Full notes at [1]
> >
> > Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >
> > Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> > Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >
> > Notes:
> > [all] Introductions
> > [all] Timing of call
> > - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> > for East Asia
> > - Simon might send out survey
> > - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> > [Simon] New sequence numbers
>
> I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
> with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
> considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
Do you mean the naming of the device, or something else? What happens
if you type 'i2c bus'?
>
> i2c 0 [ + ] i2c_cdns | |-- i2c at ff030000
> gpio 1 [ + ] pca953x | | |-- gpio at 20
> i2c_mux 0 [ + ] pca954x | | `-- i2c-mux at 74
> i2c 1 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 0
> i2c_eeprom 0 [ + ] i2c_eeprom | | | `--
> eeprom at 54
> i2c 2 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 1
> i2c_generi 0 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_20
> i2c_generi 1 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_6c
> i2c_generi 2 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
> generic_74
> i2c 3 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 2
> i2c_generi 3 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_13
> i2c_generi 4 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_14
> i2c_generi 5 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_20
> i2c_generi 6 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_43
> i2c_generi 7 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_44
> i2c_generi 8 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
> generic_74
> i2c 4 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 3
> i2c_generi 9 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_0
> i2c_generi 10 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_20
> i2c_generi 11 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_40
> i2c_generi 12 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
> generic_74
> i2c 5 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 5
> i2c_generi 13 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
> generic_20
> i2c_generi 14 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
> generic_74
> i2c 6 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | `--
> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 7
> i2c_generi 15 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
> generic_19
> i2c_generi 16 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
> generic_20
> i2c_generi 17 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
> generic_36
> i2c_generi 18 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
> generic_37
> i2c_generi 19 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
> generic_51
> i2c_generi 20 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | `--
> generic_74
Regards,
Simon
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 15:44 ` Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-20 15:50 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-21 4:11 ` Simon Glass
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-20 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/20/21 4:44 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Michal,
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>
>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>
>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>
>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> [all] Introductions
>>> [all] Timing of call
>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>> for East Asia
>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>
>> I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
>> with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
>> considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
>
> Do you mean the naming of the device, or something else? What happens
> if you type 'i2c bus'?
If look at log below. mux is at address 74 which is i2c_mux_bus_drv
and when you run i2c dev <any i2c mux channel> and run i2c probe i2c mux
itself is assigned to to i2c_generic_chip_drv.
Below you see it multiple times as generic_74 with ID 2/8/12/14/20. All
of them are just targeting i2c mux.
Thanks,
Michal
>
>>
>> i2c 0 [ + ] i2c_cdns | |-- i2c at ff030000
>> gpio 1 [ + ] pca953x | | |-- gpio at 20
>> i2c_mux 0 [ + ] pca954x | | `-- i2c-mux at 74
>> i2c 1 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 0
>> i2c_eeprom 0 [ + ] i2c_eeprom | | | `--
>> eeprom at 54
>> i2c 2 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 1
>> i2c_generi 0 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_20
>> i2c_generi 1 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_6c
>> i2c_generi 2 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
>> generic_74
>> i2c 3 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 2
>> i2c_generi 3 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_13
>> i2c_generi 4 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_14
>> i2c_generi 5 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_20
>> i2c_generi 6 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_43
>> i2c_generi 7 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_44
>> i2c_generi 8 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
>> generic_74
>> i2c 4 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 3
>> i2c_generi 9 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_0
>> i2c_generi 10 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_20
>> i2c_generi 11 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_40
>> i2c_generi 12 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
>> generic_74
>> i2c 5 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | |--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 5
>> i2c_generi 13 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | |--
>> generic_20
>> i2c_generi 14 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | | `--
>> generic_74
>> i2c 6 [ + ] i2c_mux_bus_drv | | `--
>> i2c at ff030000->i2c-mux at 74->i2c at 7
>> i2c_generi 15 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
>> generic_19
>> i2c_generi 16 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
>> generic_20
>> i2c_generi 17 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
>> generic_36
>> i2c_generi 18 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
>> generic_37
>> i2c_generi 19 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | |--
>> generic_51
>> i2c_generi 20 [ + ] i2c_generic_chip_drv | | `--
>> generic_74
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 15:50 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-21 4:11 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-21 8:09 ` Michal Simek
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-21 4:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Michal,
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 08:50, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/20/21 4:44 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> > Hi Michal,
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for attending!
> >>>
> >>> Full notes at [1]
> >>>
> >>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >>>
> >>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> >>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >>>
> >>> Notes:
> >>> [all] Introductions
> >>> [all] Timing of call
> >>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> >>> for East Asia
> >>> - Simon might send out survey
> >>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> >>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> >>
> >> I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
> >> with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
> >> considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
> >
> > Do you mean the naming of the device, or something else? What happens
> > if you type 'i2c bus'?
>
> If look at log below. mux is at address 74 which is i2c_mux_bus_drv
> and when you run i2c dev <any i2c mux channel> and run i2c probe i2c mux
> itself is assigned to to i2c_generic_chip_drv.
> Below you see it multiple times as generic_74 with ID 2/8/12/14/20. All
> of them are just targeting i2c mux.
That's strange. I wonder if it is failing to find it and creating
multiple copies?
+Heiko Schocher too
Regards,
Simon
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 4:11 ` Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-21 8:09 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-26 5:14 ` Heiko Schocher
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-21 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/21/21 5:11 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Michal,
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 08:50, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/20/21 4:44 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Michal,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>>
>>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>>
>>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>>> for East Asia
>>>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>>>
>>>> I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
>>>> with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
>>>> considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
>>>
>>> Do you mean the naming of the device, or something else? What happens
>>> if you type 'i2c bus'?
>>
>> If look at log below. mux is at address 74 which is i2c_mux_bus_drv
>> and when you run i2c dev <any i2c mux channel> and run i2c probe i2c mux
>> itself is assigned to to i2c_generic_chip_drv.
>> Below you see it multiple times as generic_74 with ID 2/8/12/14/20. All
>> of them are just targeting i2c mux.
>
> That's strange. I wonder if it is failing to find it and creating
> multiple copies?
>
> +Heiko Schocher too
I have never had a time to dig into this. But I expect that i2c mux
enables one channel and i2c probe just correct detects all devices on
bus before mux and also the whole subbus. But we are missing to check
for every detected device if that address is listed already.
Thanks,
Michal
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 8:09 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-26 5:14 ` Heiko Schocher
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Heiko Schocher @ 2021-01-26 5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hello Michel,
sorry for late reply...
Am 21.01.21 um 09:09 schrieb Michal Simek:
>
>
> On 1/21/21 5:11 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi Michal,
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 08:50, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/20/21 4:44 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>> Hi Michal,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 00:46, Michal Simek <michal.simek@xilinx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/19/21 7:54 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>>>> for East Asia
>>>>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>>>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>>>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't see any issue with it on zynqmp platform. There is only issue
>>>>> with i2c which was there for quite a long time that i2c mux is
>>>>> considered as chip on the subbus as is visible below.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean the naming of the device, or something else? What happens
>>>> if you type 'i2c bus'?
>>>
>>> If look at log below. mux is at address 74 which is i2c_mux_bus_drv
>>> and when you run i2c dev <any i2c mux channel> and run i2c probe i2c mux
>>> itself is assigned to to i2c_generic_chip_drv.
>>> Below you see it multiple times as generic_74 with ID 2/8/12/14/20. All
>>> of them are just targeting i2c mux.
>>
>> That's strange. I wonder if it is failing to find it and creating
>> multiple copies?
>>
>> +Heiko Schocher too
>
> I have never had a time to dig into this. But I expect that i2c mux
> enables one channel and i2c probe just correct detects all devices on
> bus before mux and also the whole subbus. But we are missing to check
> for every detected device if that address is listed already.
Me too, I have currently a heavy workload and no time to look into
this issue, but it is noted on my list... and my speculation goes
into the same direction.
bye,
Heiko
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 18:54 ` Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21 Simon Glass
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-20 7:46 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-20 10:08 ` Igor Opaniuk
2021-01-20 10:12 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-20 23:18 ` Jaehoon Chung
4 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Igor Opaniuk @ 2021-01-20 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Simon,
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:54 PM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for attending!
>
> Full notes at [1]
>
> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>
> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>
> Notes:
> [all] Introductions
> [all] Timing of call
> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> for East Asia
> - Simon might send out survey
> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> [Heinrich] Online docs
> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>
> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>
> Regards,
> Simon
Could you please send me an invitation for the
recurring meetings.
Thanks
--
Best regards - Freundliche Gr?sse - Meilleures salutations
Igor Opaniuk
mailto: igor.opaniuk at gmail.com
skype: igor.opanyuk
+380 (93) 836 40 67
http://ua.linkedin.com/in/iopaniuk
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2021-01-20 10:08 ` Igor Opaniuk
@ 2021-01-20 10:12 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-20 10:19 ` Lukasz Majewski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-20 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/20/21 11:08 AM, Igor Opaniuk wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:54 PM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for attending!
>>
>> Full notes at [1]
>>
>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>
>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>
>> Notes:
>> [all] Introductions
>> [all] Timing of call
>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>> for East Asia
>> - Simon might send out survey
>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>
>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>>
>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon
>
> Could you please send me an invitation for the
> recurring meetings.
for me too please.
Thanks,
Michal
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 10:12 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-20 10:19 ` Lukasz Majewski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Lukasz Majewski @ 2021-01-20 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Dear All,
> On 1/20/21 11:08 AM, Igor Opaniuk wrote:
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:54 PM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thank you for attending!
> >>
> >> Full notes at [1]
> >>
> >> Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >>
> >> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek,
> >> Sean Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >>
> >> Notes:
> >> [all] Introductions
> >> [all] Timing of call
> >> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any
> >> good for East Asia
> >> - Simon might send out survey
> >> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> >> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> >> [Heinrich] Online docs
> >> - https://u-boot.readthedocs.io/
> >> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
> >>
> >> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o/edit#
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Simon
> >
> > Could you please send me an invitation for the
> > recurring meetings.
>
> for me too please.
>
+1
> Thanks,
> Michal
Best regards,
Lukasz Majewski
--
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HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-19 18:54 ` Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21 Simon Glass
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-20 10:08 ` Igor Opaniuk
@ 2021-01-20 23:18 ` Jaehoon Chung
2021-01-20 23:25 ` Sean Anderson
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From: Jaehoon Chung @ 2021-01-20 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi,
On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for attending!
>
> Full notes at [1]
>
> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>
> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>
> Notes:
> [all] Introductions
> [all] Timing of call
> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> for East Asia
In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)
Best Regards,
Jaehoon Chung
> - Simon might send out survey
> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> [Heinrich] Online docs
> - https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=93d7f10b-cc4cc86e-93d67a44-000babff32e3-8edc69528000b522&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fu-boot.readthedocs.io%2F
> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>
> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>
> [1] https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=030f1752-5c942e37-030e9c1d-000babff32e3-e989b91a6d0ade29&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o%2Fedit%23
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
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2021-01-20 23:18 ` Jaehoon Chung
@ 2021-01-20 23:25 ` Sean Anderson
2021-01-21 3:26 ` Simon Glass
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Sean Anderson @ 2021-01-20 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/20/21 6:18 PM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thank you for attending!
>>
>> Full notes at [1]
>>
>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>
>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>
>> Notes:
>> [all] Introductions
>> [all] Timing of call
>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>> for East Asia
>
> In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
> Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)\
One option could be to alternate times. E.g. one meeting pick a time
best for one hemisphere, and another call pick a time best for the
other. For example, the next meeting could be at 4:30 UTC (since we just
met at 16:30 UTC)
--Sean
>
> Best Regards,
> Jaehoon Chung
>
>> - Simon might send out survey
>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>> - https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=93d7f10b-cc4cc86e-93d67a44-000babff32e3-8edc69528000b522&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fu-boot.readthedocs.io%2F
>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>
>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>>
>> [1] https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=030f1752-5c942e37-030e9c1d-000babff32e3-e989b91a6d0ade29&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o%2Fedit%23
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon
>>
>
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-20 23:25 ` Sean Anderson
@ 2021-01-21 3:26 ` Simon Glass
2021-01-21 4:09 ` Jaehoon Chung
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Simon Glass @ 2021-01-21 3:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi Sean & Jaehoon,
On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:25, Sean Anderson <seanga2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/20/21 6:18 PM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thank you for attending!
> >>
> >> Full notes at [1]
> >>
> >> Tuesday 19 January 2021
> >>
> >> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
> >> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
> >>
> >> Notes:
> >> [all] Introductions
> >> [all] Timing of call
> >> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
> >> for East Asia
> >
> > In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
> > Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)\
>
> One option could be to alternate times. E.g. one meeting pick a time
> best for one hemisphere, and another call pick a time best for the
> other. For example, the next meeting could be at 4:30 UTC (since we just
> met at 16:30 UTC)
>
> --Sean
Yes I think that is the best option. I'll figure this out.
Re speaking English, U-Boot is a global project so we have to
accommodate different people. We have live notes during the meeting so
if it is easier you can type things into the notes. Sometimes I find
that helps to get points across.
Regards,
Simon
>
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jaehoon Chung
> >
> >> - Simon might send out survey
> >> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
> >> [Simon] New sequence numbers
> >> [Heinrich] Online docs
> >> - https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=93d7f10b-cc4cc86e-93d67a44-000babff32e3-8edc69528000b522&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fu-boot.readthedocs.io%2F
> >> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
> >>
> >> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
> >>
> >> [1] https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=030f1752-5c942e37-030e9c1d-000babff32e3-e989b91a6d0ade29&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o%2Fedit%23
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Simon
> >>
> >
>
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 3:26 ` Simon Glass
@ 2021-01-21 4:09 ` Jaehoon Chung
2021-01-21 8:05 ` Michal Simek
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jaehoon Chung @ 2021-01-21 4:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi,
On 1/21/21 12:26 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Sean & Jaehoon,
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:25, Sean Anderson <seanga2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/20/21 6:18 PM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>
>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>
>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>
>>>> Notes:
>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>> for East Asia
>>>
>>> In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
>>> Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)\
>>
>> One option could be to alternate times. E.g. one meeting pick a time
>> best for one hemisphere, and another call pick a time best for the
>> other. For example, the next meeting could be at 4:30 UTC (since we just
>> met at 16:30 UTC)
>>
>> --Sean
>
> Yes I think that is the best option. I'll figure this out.
>
> Re speaking English, U-Boot is a global project so we have to
> accommodate different people. We have live notes during the meeting so
> if it is easier you can type things into the notes. Sometimes I find
> that helps to get points across.
It's helpful to me. :) Thaks!
Best Regards,
Jaehoon Chung
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Jaehoon Chung
>>>
>>>> - Simon might send out survey
>>>> - Send invitation to maintainer group - DONE
>>>> [Simon] New sequence numbers
>>>> [Heinrich] Online docs
>>>> - https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=93d7f10b-cc4cc86e-93d67a44-000babff32e3-8edc69528000b522&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fu-boot.readthedocs.io%2F
>>>> - Accept a merge request only with docs included?
>>>>
>>>> Next meeting Tuesday 2 Feb.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=030f1752-5c942e37-030e9c1d-000babff32e3-e989b91a6d0ade29&q=1&e=ae252977-3a7b-4c4a-ab06-1c4711467fc0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1YBOMsbM19uSFyoJWnt7-PsOLBaevzQUgV-hiR88a5-o%2Fedit%23
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 4:09 ` Jaehoon Chung
@ 2021-01-21 8:05 ` Michal Simek
2021-01-21 9:13 ` Jaehoon Chung
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Michal Simek @ 2021-01-21 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
Hi,
On 1/21/21 5:09 AM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 1/21/21 12:26 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi Sean & Jaehoon,
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:25, Sean Anderson <seanga2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/20/21 6:18 PM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>>
>>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>>
>>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>>> for East Asia
>>>>
>>>> In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
>>>> Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)\
>>>
>>> One option could be to alternate times. E.g. one meeting pick a time
>>> best for one hemisphere, and another call pick a time best for the
>>> other. For example, the next meeting could be at 4:30 UTC (since we just
>>> met at 16:30 UTC)
>>>
>>> --Sean
>>
>> Yes I think that is the best option. I'll figure this out.
>>
>> Re speaking English, U-Boot is a global project so we have to
>> accommodate different people. We have live notes during the meeting so
>> if it is easier you can type things into the notes. Sometimes I find
>> that helps to get points across.
>
> It's helpful to me. :) Thaks!
Definitely language can be a barrier but if there is option to write via
chats, docs it should be fine. Everybody understands that it can be hard
to understand but this is open community that you can answer by yes/no.
And it is not shame to ask to repeat stuff again because of language
barrier or unstable internet connection.
I believe that it is also difficult to learn your language for other.
Cheers,
Michal
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* Contributor meeting notes 19-Jan-21
2021-01-21 8:05 ` Michal Simek
@ 2021-01-21 9:13 ` Jaehoon Chung
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Jaehoon Chung @ 2021-01-21 9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: u-boot
On 1/21/21 5:05 PM, Michal Simek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 1/21/21 5:09 AM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 1/21/21 12:26 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Sean & Jaehoon,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 at 16:25, Sean Anderson <seanga2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/20/21 6:18 PM, Jaehoon Chung wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/20/21 3:54 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for attending!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Full notes at [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tuesday 19 January 2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Present: Daniel Schwierzeck, Heinrich Schuchardt, Michal Simek, Sean
>>>>>> Anderson, Simon Glass, Walter Lozano
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> [all] Introductions
>>>>>> [all] Timing of call
>>>>>> - Current time is the best across US, Europe, India. But not any good
>>>>>> for East Asia
>>>>>
>>>>> In South Korea, it will be almost am 01:30.
>>>>> Frankly, i can't speak English very well..If it doesn't matter, i hope to attend sometime. :)\
>>>>
>>>> One option could be to alternate times. E.g. one meeting pick a time
>>>> best for one hemisphere, and another call pick a time best for the
>>>> other. For example, the next meeting could be at 4:30 UTC (since we just
>>>> met at 16:30 UTC)
>>>>
>>>> --Sean
>>>
>>> Yes I think that is the best option. I'll figure this out.
>>>
>>> Re speaking English, U-Boot is a global project so we have to
>>> accommodate different people. We have live notes during the meeting so
>>> if it is easier you can type things into the notes. Sometimes I find
>>> that helps to get points across.
>>
>> It's helpful to me. :) Thaks!
>
> Definitely language can be a barrier but if there is option to write via
> chats, docs it should be fine. Everybody understands that it can be hard
> to understand but this is open community that you can answer by yes/no.
> And it is not shame to ask to repeat stuff again because of language
> barrier or unstable internet connection.
> I believe that it is also difficult to learn your language for other.
Sure, i didn't never think about using my language on community. :)
Best Regards,
Jaehoon Chung
>
> Cheers,
> Michal
>
>
>
>
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