From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: config SCHED_CORE
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 16:50:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEXW_YSC_Ee=EnX7csVkhoEF6KFYbusuNx=mQcyxfdu2R7a3Cg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YKe2vVvq9oSsNsTD@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:36 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 07:57:35AM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>
> > > ---
> > > kernel/Kconfig.preempt | 14 +++++++++++++-
> > > 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
> > > index ea1e3331c0ba..3c4566cd20ef 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
> > > +++ b/kernel/Kconfig.preempt
> > > @@ -104,4 +104,16 @@ config SCHED_CORE
> > > bool "Core Scheduling for SMT"
> > > default y
> > > depends on SCHED_SMT
> > > -
> > > + help
> > > + This option enables Core scheduling, a means of coordinated task
> > > + selection across SMT siblings with the express purpose of creating a
> > > + Core wide privilidge boundary. When enabled -- see prctl(PR_SCHED_CORE)
> > > + -- task selection will ensure all SMT siblings will execute a task
> > > + from the same 'core group', forcing idle when no matching task is found.
> > > +
> > > + This provides means of mitigation against a number of SMT side-channels;
> > > + but is, on its own, insufficient to mitigate all known side-channels.
> > > + Notable: the MDS class of attacks require more.
> > > +
> > > + Default enabled for anything that has SCHED_SMT, when unused there should
> > > + be no impact on performance.
> >
> > This description sort of makes it sound like security is the only
> > usecase. Perhaps we can also add here that core-scheduling can help
> > performance of workloads where hyperthreading is undesired, such as
> > when VM providers don't want to share hyperthreads.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> You're right. And there's this whole class of people who want to use
> this to eliminate SMT interference.
That's good, even more core scheduling users ;-)
> I'll see if I can work that in
> without turning the whole thing into a novella or so ;-/
Your patch looked good to me (delta Randy/Hugh's comments). I still
owe you the documentation patch refresh, I'll send it out soon.
Thanks,
- Joel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-24 20:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-21 3:06 config SCHED_CORE Hugh Dickins
2021-05-21 7:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-21 11:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2021-05-21 11:57 ` Joel Fernandes
2021-05-21 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-24 20:50 ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2021-05-23 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-23 20:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-05-23 21:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-05-21 16:09 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-05-25 7:05 ` [PATCH] sched: Add CONFIG_SCHED_CORE help text Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-25 17:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2021-05-25 22:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2021-06-01 14:04 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
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