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Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:49:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201126215017.41156-1-agraf@csgraf.de> <20201126215017.41156-3-agraf@csgraf.de> <20201127200054.GC56950@SPB-NB-133.local> <392c2465-157e-e15a-0a2c-2e3faa166d22@csgraf.de> In-Reply-To: From: Frank Yang Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:49:34 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] hvf: Move common code out To: Peter Maydell Cc: Alexander Graf , Roman Bolshakov , Eduardo Habkost , Richard Henderson , qemu-devel , Cameron Esfahani , qemu-arm , Claudio Fontana , Paolo Bonzini , Peter Collingbourne Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fa0e4805b55e2dcc" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b44; envelope-from=lfy@google.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb44.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" --000000000000fa0e4805b55e2dcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:10 PM Peter Maydell wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 20:56, Frank Yang wrote: > > We'd actually like to contribute upstream too :) We do want to maintain > > our own downstream though; Android Emulator codebase needs to work > > solidly on macos and windows which has made keeping up with upstream > difficult > > One of the main reasons why OSX and Windows support upstream is > not so great is because very few people are helping to develop, > test and support it upstream. The way to fix that IMHO is for more > people who do care about those platforms to actively engage > with us upstream to help in making those platforms move closer to > being first class citizens. If you stay on a downstream fork > forever then I don't think you'll ever see things improve. > > thanks > -- PMM > That's a really good point. I'll definitely be more active about sending comments upstream in the future :) Frank --000000000000fa0e4805b55e2dcc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:10 PM Peter= Maydell <peter.maydell@lina= ro.org> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 20:56, Frank Yang <lfy@google.com> wrote:
> We'd actually like to contribute upstream too :) We do want to mai= ntain
> our own downstream though; Android Emulator codebase needs to work
> solidly on macos and windows which has made keeping up with upstream d= ifficult

One of the main reasons why OSX and Windows support upstream is
not so great is because very few people are helping to develop,
test and support it upstream. The way to fix that IMHO is for more
people who do care about those platforms to actively engage
with us upstream to help in making those platforms move closer to
being first class citizens. If you stay on a downstream fork
forever then I don't think you'll ever see things improve.

thanks
-- PMM

That's a really good point. = I'll definitely be more active about sending comments upstream in the f= uture :)

Frank
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