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From: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
	linus.walleij@linaro.org, khali@linux-fr.org,
	ben-linux@fluff.org, w.sang@pengutronix.de,
	mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] spi / ACPI: add ACPI enumeration support
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 09:35:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAErSpo4V-0Tnaf__fKUHM_69tBvfLySWzaoCWha9gimx0va1-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6v6zHcq=99JVvhNBe8DuWhyaZ_ojFai9=J2Yuu2TZw1MQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> wrote:
>> [+cc Greg, Peter, Tony since they acked the original patch [1]]
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mika Westerberg
>> <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 12:32:25PM -0700, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>> Struct device_driver is a generic structure, so it seems strange to
>>>> have to include non-generic things like of_device_id and now
>>>> acpi_match_table there.
>>>
>>> Yes, but in a sense the DT and ACPI are "generic". So that they are used to
>>> describe the configuration of a machine.
>>
>> What I meant by "generic" was "useful across all architectures."  The
>> new acpi_match_table and acpi_handle fields [1] are not generic in
>> that sense because they're present on all architectures but used only
>> on x86 and ia64.  The existing of_match_table and of_node are
>> similarly unused on many architectures.  This doesn't seem like a
>> scalable strategy to me.  Are we going to add a pnpbios_node for x86
>> PNPBIOS machines without ACPI, a pdc_hpa for parisc machines with PDC,
>> etc.?
>>
>> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1677221/
>
> Ultimately yes, I think that is what we want to do,

Just to be clear, you think we *should* add things like pnpbios_node,
pdc_hpa, etc., to struct device, one field for every scheme of telling
the OS about non-enumerable devices, where only one of the N fields is
used on any given machine?  That seems surprising to me, but maybe I
just need to be educated :)

> but there is first
> the non-trivial problem to solve of figuring out how ACPI/DT/whatever
> data maps into what the driver expects. For example, say a device uses
> two GPIOs (A & B) and we have a generic get_gpio(int index) function
> that works for both ACPI and DT. But what if the ACPI binding has the
> gpios in the order A,B and DT orders them B,A? I do want to coordinate
> between the DT and ACPI camps to avoid those situations as much as
> possible, but they will happen. When they do the driver will still
> need firmware specific data. It doesn't make any sense to put that
> stuff outside the driver because only that specific driver needs the
> extra information.

Sure.  This seems like just a special case of "drivers need a way to
access the underlying ACPI/DT/whatever-specific functionality," e.g.,

    gpio = get_gpio(dev, dev_is_acpi(dev) ? 1 : 0);

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-09 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-03  7:46 [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] gpio / ACPI: add ACPI support Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 11:53   ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 12:14     ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-05 12:46       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:11         ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:19           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:28             ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 14:40                 ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-06  9:39                   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-06 10:15                     ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-07  8:54                       ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 15:55   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-08 19:38     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-09 14:11       ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-09 14:18         ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 15:05           ` Mathias Nyman
2012-11-09 15:46             ` Grant Likely
2012-11-11  9:50               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] spi / ACPI: add ACPI enumeration support Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 19:42   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-03 20:13     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 20:59       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:56           ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 10:56             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 12:02               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 12:23                 ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 12:59                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 13:15                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 13:20                       ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-05 13:43                         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 14:03                         ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 14:19                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 14:53                             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 15:19                               ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 17:12                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 17:43                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-05 18:08                                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 17:49                                   ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-05 20:42                           ` Linus Walleij
2012-11-06  8:11                 ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 16:54           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 13:43             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-06 20:35               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 22:28                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-06 22:36                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07  9:58                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-07 11:14                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07 13:05                         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08  0:46                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 20:20                             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 20:54                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 18:05                       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-08 21:06                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-08 21:34                           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-05 10:54       ` Mark Brown
2012-11-03 20:39     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 16:54       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 13:16         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-06 20:53           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-06 22:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-07  9:56               ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 19:32                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-08 20:04                   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-09 15:11                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-09 15:45                       ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 16:35                         ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2012-11-09 16:43                           ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 16:48                             ` Mark Brown
2012-11-09 16:53                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-10 11:10                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-10 11:16                                 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-10 17:14                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-11-10 19:40                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-05 10:54   ` Mark Brown
2012-11-05 11:03     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-05 11:13       ` Mark Brown
2012-11-08 18:48   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09  3:50     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03  7:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] i2c " Mika Westerberg
2012-11-03 21:52   ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-04  7:23     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-04  8:50       ` Jean Delvare
2012-11-04 10:50         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-08 18:58   ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09  3:51     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-04 18:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C Linus Walleij
2012-11-05  9:23   ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 11:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] Centralized parsing of ACPI device resources (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ACPI 5 support for GPIO, SPI and I2C) Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] ACPI: Move device resources interpretation code from PNP to ACPI core Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 13:27     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 20:25       ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:01   ` [PATCH 2/3] ACPI / platform: Use common ACPI device resource parsing routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 12:02   ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Evaluate _CRS while creating device node objects Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-12 14:46     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-12 21:03       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13  7:12         ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 12:06           ` [Replacement][PATCH 3/3] Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 14:16             ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 15:15               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 15:18                 ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 15:28                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 15:37                     ` Mika Westerberg
2012-11-13 16:34           ` [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: Evaluate _CRS while creating device node objects Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 16:34             ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 20:44             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 22:06               ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 22:06                 ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 22:56                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 22:56                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  2:23                   ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-14  2:23                     ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-14  9:18                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:18                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:32                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:32                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14 14:20                         ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-14 14:20                           ` Moore, Robert
2012-11-13 20:51   ` [PATCH 0/3 rev 2] Centralized parsing of ACPI device resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:55     ` [PATCH 1/3 rev 2] ACPI: Move device resources interpretation code from PNP to ACPI core Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:55     ` [PATCH 2/3 rev 2] ACPI / platform: Use common ACPI device resource parsing routines Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-13 20:56     ` [PATCH 3/3 rev 2] ACPI: Centralized processing of ACPI device resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-11-14  9:52     ` [PATCH 0/3 rev 2] Centralized parsing " Mika Westerberg
2012-11-14 10:08       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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