From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fY81O-0005CK-10 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 06:49:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fY81N-0001Vx-7O for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 06:49:58 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-x243.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::243]:33812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fY81N-0001VD-1E for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 06:49:57 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-x243.google.com with SMTP id c2-v6so1427732oic.1 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 03:49:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180627085217.blrsx5lmu4sau4fd@sirius.home.kraxel.org> References: <20180625131253.11218-1-kraxel@redhat.com> <20180625131253.11218-2-kraxel@redhat.com> <6ad67e44-b002-1cd7-cfd1-2d98ebde1a7e@redhat.com> <20180627065126.mwzdxshr3njzok7n@sirius.home.kraxel.org> <0df8a05c-43fc-6e85-b13c-d3f5c4691964@redhat.com> <87fu18ach6.fsf_-_@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20180627085217.blrsx5lmu4sau4fd@sirius.home.kraxel.org> From: Peter Maydell Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:49:35 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Drop support for 32bit hosts in qemu? (was: [PULL 1/6] audio/hda: create millisecond timers that handle IO) List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: BALATON Zoltan , Martin Schrodt , Thomas Huth , Max Reitz , Markus Armbruster , QEMU Developers On 27 June 2018 at 09:52, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > >> > Is QEMU still useful on 32-bit hosts? Honest question! >> >> I guess it depends on what 32-bit hosts you consider. If you look at only >> x86 vs. x86_64 then probably x86 is not that important any more but for some >> embedded systems/SoCs 32bit might still be common and QEMU useful for those >> (also as host not only emulated). I would generally agree with this. For x86 32-bit is probably droppable, but for non-x86 the situation is much less clear. > Well. I've used kvm with an 32bit arm soc (cubietruck). It's very > slow. And all the arm architecture improvements to support kvm better > are for aarch64 only. Cubietruck (a Cortex-A7) is a pretty slow 32-bit Arm core. Ask again in a couple of years :-) thanks -- PMM