From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmiY4-0005zf-Pu for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:03:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmiY3-0005mv-J8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:03:12 -0500 Received: from mail-wm0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::22d]:36783) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmiY3-0005m7-D6 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:03:11 -0500 Received: by mail-wm0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id n11so13433227wma.1 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:03:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170311022506.GB26530@flamenco> References: <20170310012339.GA7400@flamenco> <20170310114531.GB2480@work-vm> <20170311022506.GB26530@flamenco> From: Peter Maydell Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 16:02:47 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Benchmarking linux-user performance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Emilio G. Cota" Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Richard Henderson , Laurent Vivier , Paolo Bonzini , =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=EF=BF=BDe?= , qemu-devel On 11 March 2017 at 03:25, Emilio G. Cota wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:48:31 +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >> Given the scale on the LHS is from 1.74 to 1.88 my guess is that the >> variation is in large part noise and the major thing is "our fp >> performance is bounded by softfloat, which doesn't change and is >> always very slow". > > It isn't "measurement noise" -- if you look at the PNGs the measurements > are very stable (all points have error bars): http://imgur.com/a/nF7Ls > > It's true that performance here varies very little. This is just the > result of Amdahl's law, as you point out. (upon re-reading your message, > I see that perhaps what you meant by "noise" is exactly this.) Yes, sorry, I wasn't really using the right terminology there. I just meant that the release-to-release variation is not as significant as it appears from the graph, because the LHS axis scale is covering such a small range. thanks -- PMM