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From: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PULL 31/31] qemu-option: warn for short-form boolean options
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:11:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFEAcA9c01xj0bGcKai-wOeR_c67+Uvcse1Xn=tbYRE7tjwhSw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f9999eb-66a5-3fe4-64fe-41f64edb49ff@redhat.com>

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 13:44, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 16/02/21 14:36, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > Broadly, I think that being able to say 'foo' when foo is a
> > boolean option being set to true is obvious and nice-to-use
> > syntax, and I don't really want it to go away. 'nofoo' for
> > 'foo=false' is much less obvious and I'm happy if we only
> > support it as a special-case for 'nowait'.
>
> It really depends on what the default  "-M pc,nographics" arguably makes
> sense too (more so than "-M pc,graphics" since true is the default).

Is anybody using 'pc,nographics' ? google didn't find any examples.

> Likewise for "usb", where the default even depends on the machine type.
>
> How do you propose to resolve the issues and ambiguities in the grammar?
>
> 1) due to QemuOpts not understanding types, you can specify "serial" and
> get "serial=on" instead

We should fix this by plumbing through the type information,
so that we only allow 'foo' to mean 'foo=on' if foo is really
a boolean (or other type that specifies that it has similar behaviour).

> 2) with a parser that understands other types than strings, you would
> not be able to specify "-M kernel-irqchip" because it would be converted
> to the boolean "true" and not the enum "'on'"

We should decide whether 'kernel-irqchip' has a type that
allows 'no parameter specified' => 'use this default value'
or not, and if we go for the latter use whatever default value
the backend expects. (And probably "boolean-and-an-extra-value"
types should allow the boolean bit to be specified in all the
same ways that a plain-old-boolean is.)

> 3) one is not be able to specify "-M pc" -M usb" because the second
> kernel-irqchip would be interpreted as a machine type?

I don't understand this one, I'm afraid.

-- PMM


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-23 14:30 [PULL 00/31] Misc patches for 2020-01-21 Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:30 ` [PULL 01/31] runstate: cleanup reboot and panic actions Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:30 ` [PULL 02/31] configure: MinGW respect --bindir argument Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 03/31] x86/cpu: Use max host physical address if -cpu max option is applied Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 04/31] build-system: clean up TCG/TCI configury Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-06 18:01   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-06 19:08     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 05/31] util/cacheflush: Fix error generated by clang Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 06/31] softmmu/physmem: Silence GCC 10 maybe-uninitialized error Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 07/31] ide: atapi: check logical block address and read size (CVE-2020-29443) Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 08/31] build-sys: remove unused LIBS Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 09/31] build-sys: set global arguments for cflags/ldflags Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 10/31] build-sys: add libvhost-user missing dependencies Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 11/31] slirp: update to git master Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 12/31] meson: Declare have_virtfs_proxy_helper in main meson.build Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 13/31] nsis: adjust for new MinGW paths Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 14/31] meson: convert wixl detection to Meson Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 15/31] meson: Summarize information related to directories first Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 16/31] meson: Display host binaries information altogether Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 17/31] meson: Summarize overall features altogether Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 18/31] meson: Summarize compilation-related information altogether Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 19/31] meson: Display accelerators and selected targets altogether Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 20/31] meson: Display block layer information altogether Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 21/31] meson: Display crypto-related " Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 22/31] meson: Add a section header for library dependencies Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 23/31] meson.build: Declare global edk2_targets / install_edk2_blobs variables Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 24/31] meson.build: Detect bzip2 program Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 25/31] acceptance: switch to QMP change-vnc-password command Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 26/31] hmp: remove "change vnc TARGET" command Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 27/31] qmp: remove deprecated "change" command Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 28/31] vnc: support "-vnc help" Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 29/31] qemu-option: clean up id vs. list->merge_lists Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-25  7:42   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-25  7:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 30/31] qemu-option: move help handling to get_opt_name_value Paolo Bonzini
2021-01-23 14:31 ` [PULL 31/31] qemu-option: warn for short-form boolean options Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-15 19:56   ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-15 23:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16  9:58       ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 10:43         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 11:04           ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 11:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 11:58               ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 13:30                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 13:36                   ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 13:43                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 14:11                       ` Peter Maydell [this message]
2021-02-16 14:45                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 14:51                           ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 14:58                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 13:53                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-23 14:57 ` [PULL 00/31] Misc patches for 2020-01-21 no-reply
2021-01-23 19:52 ` Peter Maydell

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