From: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
To: ojeda@kernel.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:42:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFLxGvzzmytRewN+tnepyKDY6f1yYUUtXVtnV+ozDzdfOwVN6g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210414184604.23473-1-ojeda@kernel.org>
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 2:41 AM <ojeda@kernel.org> wrote:
> Regarding compilers, we support Clang-built kernels as well as
> `LLVM=1` builds where possible (i.e. as long as supported by
> the ClangBuiltLinux project). We also maintain some configurations
> of GCC-built kernels working, but they are not intended to be used
> at the present time. Having a `bindgen` backend for GCC would be
> ideal to improve support for those builds.
Sp this effectively means gcc is a second class citizen and even if
gcc is supported
at some point one needs a super recent gcc *and* rust toolchain to build
a rust-enabeled kernel?
I understand that this is right now not a big deal, but as soon a
non-trival subsystem
is rust-only people are forced to upgrade.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for having rust support in Linux.
But I'm a bit worried about new dependencies on compiler toolchains.
As someone who works a lot with long supported embedded systems I learned that
as soon an application gains a hard dependency on clang or rust I'm in trouble.
--
Thanks,
//richard
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2021-04-14 18:45 [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 01/13] kallsyms: Support "big" kernel symbols (2-byte lengths) ojeda
2021-04-14 19:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 19:59 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 02/13] kallsyms: Increase maximum kernel symbol length to 512 ojeda
2021-04-14 23:48 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 03/13] Makefile: Generate CLANG_FLAGS even in GCC builds ojeda
2021-04-14 18:59 ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-04-15 10:18 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 23:46 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-15 0:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 04/13] Kbuild: Rust support ojeda
2021-04-14 23:19 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-15 0:43 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-15 18:03 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-16 12:23 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-17 19:35 ` Masahiro Yamada
2021-04-16 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 17:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-16 17:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 18:09 ` Al Viro
2021-04-16 18:57 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 20:22 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 20:34 ` Connor Kuehl
2021-04-16 20:58 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 21:39 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 22:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 22:45 ` Al Viro
2021-04-16 23:46 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-17 4:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-17 15:38 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 21:19 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 17:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-19 19:58 ` David Sterba
2021-04-19 20:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-19 21:03 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-19 20:54 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 05/13] Rust: Compiler builtins crate ojeda
2021-04-14 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-14 19:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 06/13] Rust: Module crate ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 07/13] Rust: Kernel crate ojeda
2021-04-14 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-14 19:50 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:45 ` [PATCH 08/13] Rust: Export generated symbols ojeda
2021-04-14 18:46 ` [PATCH 09/13] Samples: Rust examples ojeda
2021-04-14 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-14 19:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 19:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 11:46 ` Andrej Shadura
2021-04-14 23:24 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-15 7:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-15 7:39 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-15 12:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 13:07 ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2021-04-16 13:20 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-04-14 18:46 ` [PATCH 10/13] Documentation: Rust general information ojeda
2021-04-14 22:17 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-14 23:34 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 18:46 ` [PATCH 11/13] MAINTAINERS: Rust ojeda
2021-04-14 21:55 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-14 22:02 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 22:36 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-14 18:46 ` [PATCH 12/13] Rust: add abstractions for Binder (WIP) ojeda
2021-04-14 18:46 ` [PATCH 13/13] Android: Binder IPC in Rust (WIP) ojeda
2021-04-14 19:44 ` [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] Rust support Linus Torvalds
2021-04-14 20:20 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-15 1:38 ` Kees Cook
2021-04-15 8:26 ` David Laight
2021-04-15 18:08 ` Kees Cook
2021-04-15 12:39 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-14 20:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-14 20:35 ` Josh Triplett
2021-04-14 22:08 ` David Laight
2021-04-14 20:29 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-18 15:31 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-15 0:22 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-04-15 10:05 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-15 18:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 2:22 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-16 4:25 ` Al Viro
2021-04-16 5:02 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-16 5:39 ` Paul Zimmerman
2021-04-16 7:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 7:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-17 5:23 ` comex
2021-04-17 12:46 ` David Laight
2021-04-17 14:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-19 7:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 7:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-19 8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 9:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-19 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-19 9:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-19 11:01 ` Will Deacon
2021-04-19 17:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-19 18:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-19 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-22 10:03 ` Linus Walleij
2021-04-22 14:09 ` David Laight
2021-04-22 15:24 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-26 0:18 ` Linus Walleij
2021-04-26 14:26 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-26 14:40 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-26 16:03 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-27 10:54 ` Linus Walleij
2021-04-27 11:13 ` Robin Randhawa
2021-04-29 1:52 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-26 18:01 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-22 21:28 ` Miguel Ojeda
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2021-04-26 18:18 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-27 11:13 ` Linus Walleij
2021-04-28 2:51 ` Kyle Strand
2021-04-28 3:10 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-05-04 21:21 ` Linus Walleij
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2021-05-05 11:34 ` Linus Walleij
2021-05-05 14:17 ` Miguel Ojeda
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2021-05-07 18:23 ` Miguel Ojeda
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2021-04-19 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-19 22:03 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 20:48 ` Josh Triplett
2021-04-16 8:16 ` Michal Kubecek
2021-04-16 9:29 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 13:07 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-16 14:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 15:04 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 16:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 15:33 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-04-16 16:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 17:10 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-04-16 17:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-16 18:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
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2021-04-17 11:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-17 14:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-17 14:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-17 13:46 ` David Laight
2021-04-16 17:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-04-16 17:46 ` Connor Kuehl
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2021-04-20 3:47 ` Willy Tarreau
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2021-04-17 14:21 ` Willy Tarreau
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2021-04-17 13:01 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
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