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From: Enric Balletbo Serra <eballetbo@gmail.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@gmail.com>,
	Jaehoon Chung <jh80.chung@samsung.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@chromium.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Addy Ke <addy.ke@rock-chips.com>,
	Alexandru Stan <amstan@chromium.org>,
	Chris Zhong <zyw@rock-chips.com>,
	Caesar Wang <wxt@rock-chips.com>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: dw_mmc: Wait for data transfer after response errors
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 19:16:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFqH_53Dsm5Cd6XzLai=_zGSvjQ_-uO4jQGKpBp-crztTXc-mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160324162220.GV19428@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

2016-03-24 17:22 GMT+01:00 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:06:45AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
>> Russell,
> ...
>> Presumably this is similar to what you saw: the host saw the CRC error
>> but the card knew nothing about it.  Sending the stop command during
>> this time confused the card.  Presumably the card was in transfer
>> state during this time?
>
> If the card was in transfer state for a command which expects a stop
> command, and that stop command was issued after the card entered
> the transfer state, then I'd expect the card to handle it... though
> there's always the firmware bug issue.
>
> If the card hadn't entered transfer state at the time the stop command
> was issued.. I think that's more likely to hit card firmware issues.
>
> With the tuning commands, there's another case you can hit though:
> the data transfer may have completed before you get around to sending
> the stop command.
>
> That's why, for sdhci, I came to the conclusion that waiting for the
> data transfer to complete or timeout was the best solution for SDHCI.
>

In fact I only saw the problem with dw_mmc-exynos, on dw_mmc-rockchip
it doesn't happen because it enables the DW_MCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_DTO
behaviour. What does this is use a kernel timer to signal when DTO
interrupt does NOT come. Note that if I disable this quirk I can also
saw the problem on rockchip.

> Maybe, if sending a STOP command does cause card firmware issues, then:
>
> 1) it provides evidence that trying to send a stop command on response
>    CRC error is the wrong thing to do (it was talked about making SDHCI
>    do this.)
>

Seems the same here, so guess is the wrong thing to do.

> 2) it suggests that the solution I came up with for SDHCI is the better
>    solution, rather than trying to immediately recover the situation by
>    sending a STOP command.
>

I'm wondering if just enable this quirk on exynos too is the proper
solution. Unfortunately I don't have enough documentation to check
differences between those controllers.
Also will really help have access to some hardware that uses
dw_mmc-pltfm to check if, like on exynos, same issue is triggered.
Anyone with the hardware who can do some tests?


> Maybe dw-mmc can do something similar, but with the lack of data transfer
> timeout, maybe it's possible to do something with a kernel timer instead,
> and check what the hardware is doing after a response CRC error?
>
> --
> RMK's Patch system: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-30 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-17 12:12 [PATCH] mmc: dw_mmc: Wait for data transfer after response errors Enric Balletbo Serra
2016-03-21 22:38 ` Doug Anderson
2016-03-24 11:26   ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2016-03-24 15:16     ` Doug Anderson
2016-03-24 15:30     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-03-24 16:06       ` Doug Anderson
2016-03-24 16:22         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-03-30 17:16           ` Enric Balletbo Serra [this message]
2016-03-30 17:26             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]               ` <CAFqH_51sMLbURO4n7OTEuC8S-6w0Q4aRv47nEoCAmK8-MJ+Jbw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-30 20:39                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-03-31  1:56               ` Shawn Lin
2016-03-31  2:03             ` Jaehoon Chung
2016-03-31  6:39               ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2016-03-31 18:12           ` Doug Anderson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-05-18 15:53 Doug Anderson
2015-05-26 18:02 ` Alim Akhtar
2015-05-26 20:44   ` Doug Anderson
2015-05-27  1:53     ` Jaehoon Chung
2015-05-27 16:52       ` Doug Anderson

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