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From: Kees Cook <>
To: Rob Landley <>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,,
Subject: Re: Regression: commit da029c11e6b1 broke toybox xargs.
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:42:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Rob Landley <> wrote:
> But this just broke my _fix_, not the earlier deployed stuff. I removed
> the size measuring code when the 131072 limit went away, the bug was
> there's a new limit I need to not hit, I tried to figure out what the
> limit is now, confirmed that the various libc implementations don't
> agree, then the actual kernel limit changed again while I was looking at it.

In the fix you landed (to include env in size calculations -- which
didn't change recently), you also included the pointer size itself in
the calculation, so

commit 98da7d08850f ("fs/exec.c: account for argv/envp pointers")

should be handled.

If we didn't do the "but no more than 75% of _STK_LIM", and moved to
something like "check stack utilization after loading the binary", we
end up in the position where the kernel is past the point of no return
(so instead of E2BIG, the execve()ing process just SEGVs), which is
much harder to debug or recover from (i.e. there's no process left to
return from the execve() from). We could, however, limit that behavior
to setuid processes? I'm open to whatever Linus says here.

FWIW, I have a lightly tested alternative here (should be visible shortly):


Kees Cook
Pixel Security

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-04  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 23:34 Regression: commit da029c11e6b1 broke toybox xargs Rob Landley
2017-11-02  3:30 ` Kees Cook
     [not found] ` <>
2017-11-02 15:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-03 23:58     ` Rob Landley
2017-11-04  0:03       ` [Toybox] " enh
2017-11-04  0:42       ` Kees Cook [this message]
2017-11-04  1:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-04  1:37           ` Kees Cook
2017-11-05  1:10             ` Rob Landley
2017-11-04  1:07       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-05  0:39         ` Rob Landley
2017-11-05 20:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15 22:10             ` enh
2017-11-15 22:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-15 21:12           ` Pavel Machek

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