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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: Jameson Miller <jamill@microsoft.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"gitster@pobox.com" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"jonathantanmy@google.com" <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Allocate cache entries from memory pool
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 13:58:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kb1K9iysibzmn2SUfyTayXOn97wTsoL4s557j+_ievkBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8DF40o3gesuNbHACK+NiE=iZuXxLacyEQjECYewDy_icw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To me it is also a clear yes when it comes to combining these
>> two memory pools.
>
> I also did not notice that jm/mem-pool already landed in master.

Oh, thanks for telling! Now that I look at it, I am doubting it;

The reason for my doubt is the potential quadratic behavior for
new allocations, in mem_pool_alloc() we walk all mp_blocks to
see if we can fit the requested allocation in one of the later blocks.
So if we call mem_pool_alloc a million times, we get a O(n)
mp_blocks which we'd have to walk in each call.

However in alloc.c we do know that a slab is full as soon as we
look take the next slab. That is the beauty of knowing 'len' at
construction time of the allocator.

So I guess I'll just re-use the mp_block and introduce another
struct fixed_sized_mem_pool, which will not look into other mp_blocks
but the current.


> Have
> you tried measure (both memory usage and allocation speed) of it and
> alloc.c?

No, I was about to, but then started reading the code in an attempt to replace
alloc.c by a mempool and saw the quadratic behavior.

> Just take some big repo as an example and do count-objects -v
> to see how many blobs/trees/commits it has, then allocate the same
> amount with both alloc.c and mem-pool.c and measure both speed/mem.
> I'm pretty sure you're right that mem-pool.c is a clear yes. I was
> just being more conservative because we do (slightly) change
> allocator's behavior when we make the switch. But it's also very
> likely that any performance difference will be insignificant.
>
> I'm asking this because if mem-pool.c is a clear winner, you can start
> to update you series to use it now and kill alloc.c in the process.

I'll implement the fixed_sized_mem_pool and take some measurements.

>
> PS. Is Jeff back yet?

His last email on the public list is Apr 10th, stating that he'll be offline for
"a few weeks", in <20180406175349.GB32228@sigill.intra.peff.net> he
said the vacation part is 3 weeks. So I think he is done with vacation and
is just hiding to figure out a nice comeback. ;-)

> I'm sure Junio is listening and all but I'm
> afraid he's too busy being a maintainer so Jeff's opinion in this area
> is really valuable. He has all the fun and weird use cases to play
> with at github.

ok. I'll cc him for these patches.

Thanks,
Stefan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-03 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 16:34 [PATCH v1 0/5] Allocate cache entries from memory pool Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 16:34 ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 1/5] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 19:00   ` Ben Peart
2018-04-17 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 2/5] Add an API creating / discarding cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 23:11   ` Ben Peart
2018-04-17 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 3/5] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-04-20 23:21   ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-23 17:27     ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-23 17:49       ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-23 18:20         ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 4/5] Allocate cache entries from memory pools Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 16:34 ` [PATCH v1 5/5] Add optional memory validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller
2018-04-17 18:39 ` [PATCH v1 0/5] Allocate cache entries from memory pool Ben Peart
2018-04-23 14:09   ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-18  4:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-04-20 17:49   ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-23 16:44     ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-23 17:18       ` Stefan Beller
2018-04-23 16:19   ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-20 23:34 ` Jonathan Tan
2018-04-23 17:14   ` Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 15:31 ` [PATCH v2 " Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 15:31   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry() to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 15:31   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] block alloc: add lifecycle APIs for cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 15:31   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 21:42     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-01 15:43       ` Jameson Miller
2018-05-03 16:18     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-04-30 15:31   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] block alloc: allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-04-30 15:31   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] block alloc: add validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller
2018-05-03 16:28     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-03 16:35   ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Allocate cache entries from memory pool Duy Nguyen
2018-05-03 17:21     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-03 19:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-03 20:58         ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2018-05-03 21:13           ` Jameson Miller
2018-05-03 22:18             ` [PATCH] alloc.c: replace alloc by mempool Stefan Beller
2018-05-04 16:33               ` Duy Nguyen
2018-05-08  0:37                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-08  0:44                   ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-08  1:07                     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-23 14:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] allocate cache entries from memory pool Jameson Miller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry() to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-05-25 22:54     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] block alloc: add lifecycle APIs for cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-05-24  4:52     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 14:47       ` Jameson Miller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mem-pool: only search head block for available space Jameson Miller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mem-pool: add lifecycle management functions Jameson Miller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-06-01 19:28     ` Stefan Beller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] block alloc: allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-05-23 14:47   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] block alloc: add validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller
2018-05-24  4:55   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] allocate cache entries from memory pool Junio C Hamano
2018-05-24 14:44     ` Jameson Miller
2018-05-25 22:53       ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-20 20:41         ` Jameson Miller
2018-05-25 22:41   ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-20 20:17 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 1/8] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry() to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 2/8] block alloc: add lifecycle APIs for cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-06-21 21:14     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-28 14:07       ` Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 3/8] mem-pool: only search head block for available space Jameson Miller
2018-06-21 21:33     ` Stefan Beller
2018-06-28 14:12       ` Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 4/8] mem-pool: tweak math on mp_block allocation size Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 5/8] mem-pool: add lifecycle management functions Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 6/8] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 7/8] block alloc: allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-06-20 20:17   ` [PATCH v4 8/8] block alloc: add validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00   ` [PATCH v5 0/8] Allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 1/8] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry() to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 2/8] read-cache: make_cache_entry should take object_id struct Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 17:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-28 22:27       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 3/8] block alloc: add lifecycle APIs for cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 18:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-28 22:28       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 4/8] mem-pool: only search head block for available space Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 5/8] mem-pool: add life cycle management functions Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 17:15       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 6/8] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 19:09       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-02 18:28         ` Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 7/8] block alloc: allocate cache entries from mem-pool Jameson Miller
2018-06-28 14:00     ` [PATCH v5 8/8] block alloc: add validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49     ` [PATCH v6 0/8] Allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 1/8] read-cache: teach refresh_cache_entry to take istate Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 2/8] read-cache: teach make_cache_entry to take object_id Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 21:23         ` Stefan Beller
2018-07-05 15:20           ` Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 3/8] block alloc: add lifecycle APIs for cache_entry structs Jameson Miller
2018-07-22  9:23         ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 4/8] mem-pool: only search head block for available space Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 5/8] mem-pool: add life cycle management functions Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 6/8] mem-pool: fill out functionality Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 7/8] block alloc: allocate cache entries from mem_pool Jameson Miller
2018-07-02 19:49       ` [PATCH v6 8/8] block alloc: add validations around cache_entry lifecyle Jameson Miller

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