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From: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to large transactions
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 10:31:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGZ79kbev7OS_-xZAizSr0SSwdAZfn4U-3QRy7GprexJt=CzZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqa8y1iekw.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the core management side, xmalloc() and friends retry upon
>>> failure, after attempting to free the resource.  I wonder if your
>>> codepath can do something similar to that, perhaps?
>>
>> But then we'd need to think about which fds can be 'garbage collected'.
>> The lock files certainly can be closed and reopened.
>
> ... and that is the natural thing to garbage collect, no?  After
> all, this approach allows lock-file subsystem to keep fds open even
> when they do not absolutely have to, so they are the best candidates
> to be shot down first when things gets tight.
>
> A good thing is that you have a list of all them already for use by
> the atexit handler ;-)

Yes, but when such a garbage collection is in place, it is part of the API,
which means you need to check all places, where lock files are used,
so that you have the pattern

   open lock file
   ...
   if lock_file->lk == -1
       lock_file_reopen(...)
   use(lock_file->lk)

I think that could be easily integrated into the lock_file API when the API
users don't directly read the values of the lock file struct, but rather call
a method
    int lock_file_get_fd(lock);

which guarantees to return a valid fd, but that is not long term stable. You
can use the fd for the next action, but it may become garbage collected again.

So then you don't know how long the fd is valid as the garbage collection
may be either triggered from the lock file code or by yourself?

There is some uncertainty on when which data is valid, which is why I dislike
this approach and rather prefer to make it explicit. If we run into such
a problem in another place, we can still think about a general solution in the
lock file API.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-21 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 23:17 [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to large transactions Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs.c: remove lock_fd from struct ref_lock Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 2/3] Move get_max_fd_limit(void) to git_compat_util.h Stefan Beller
2015-04-16 23:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] refs.c: enable large transactions Stefan Beller
2015-04-17 17:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to " Junio C Hamano
2015-04-17 22:12   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-17 22:17     ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-17 23:31       ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-20 22:26         ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-20 22:51           ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-20 23:07             ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21  0:31               ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21  0:35                 ` [PATCH] refs.c: enable " Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 17:16                   ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 17:24                     ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 18:00                       ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 19:06                         ` [PATCHv2] " Stefan Beller
2015-04-21 19:56                           ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 14:11                           ` Michael Haggerty
2015-04-22 19:09                             ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 20:12                               ` Michael Haggerty
2015-04-21 17:22                   ` [PATCH] " Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 23:21                 ` [PATCH 0/3] Another approach to " Jeff King
2015-04-22 19:14                   ` Stefan Beller
2015-04-22 20:11                     ` Jeff King
2015-04-21 17:19               ` Junio C Hamano
2015-04-21 17:31                 ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2015-04-21 12:37             ` Michael Haggerty

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