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* Outreachy
@ 2020-10-15  7:03 Zodwa Phakathi
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Zodwa Phakathi @ 2020-10-15  7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: git

Good day,

I hope this email finds you well. My name is Zodwa Phakathi from South
Africa. I am one of the Outreachy applicants. I would like to
participate in the following project. The project name is  Accelerate
rename detection and the "range-diff" command in Git. I would like to
know if you guys have any suggestions on which microproject I can
currently work on. The microproject I would like  to work on is
Modernize a test script, Is it still available to work on it.


kind regards,
Zodwa.

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* Re: Outreachy
  2023-03-15 20:09     ` Outreachy Lars-Peter Clausen
@ 2023-03-19 11:20       ` Menna Mahmoud
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Menna Mahmoud @ 2023-03-19 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars-Peter Clausen, Randy Dunlap, Dan Carpenter
  Cc: Michael.Hennerich, jic23, gregkh, linux-iio, linux-staging,
	linux-kernel, Outreachy Linux Kernel


On ١٥‏/٣‏/٢٠٢٣ ٢٢:٠٩, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
> On 3/15/23 12:24, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>
>> On 3/15/23 07:03, Dan Carpenter wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 03:17:28PM +0200, Menna Mahmoud wrote:
>>>> Hi Mentors,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am Menna, Outreachy applicant and I work on my clean-up patches.
>>>>
>>>> Is it Okay to work on this error reported by checkpatch script?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
>>>> #256: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:256:
>>>> +static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQ(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, 
>>>> AD9832_FREQ1HM);
>>> What???  Is it complaining about the 0200?  That is octal. Why is
>>> checkpatch complaining about this?  Am I wrong?  Maybe I am misreading.
>>>
>>> I could investigate, but I am leaving that task to you.  It may be that
>>> checkpatch has a problem and you can fix that instead.
>>>
>> Yes, checkpatch seems to be confused here.
> It seems to make an assumption that everything starting with 
> IIO_DEV_ATTR_ has the mode field at the same position. Which is not 
> the case.
>
> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/scripts/checkpatch.pl#L798
>
> Still a good target to get this fixed as part of a outreachy task.


I see, Thanks Randy and Lars-Peter for your help I will try check this.


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* Re: Outreachy
  2023-03-15 19:24   ` Outreachy Randy Dunlap
@ 2023-03-15 20:09     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
  2023-03-19 11:20       ` Outreachy Menna Mahmoud
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Lars-Peter Clausen @ 2023-03-15 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Randy Dunlap, Dan Carpenter, Menna Mahmoud
  Cc: Michael.Hennerich, jic23, gregkh, linux-iio, linux-staging,
	linux-kernel, Outreachy Linux Kernel

On 3/15/23 12:24, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>
> On 3/15/23 07:03, Dan Carpenter wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 03:17:28PM +0200, Menna Mahmoud wrote:
>>> Hi Mentors,
>>>
>>>
>>> I am Menna, Outreachy applicant and I work on my clean-up patches.
>>>
>>> Is it Okay to work on this error reported by checkpatch script?
>>>
>>>
>>> drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
>>> #256: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:256:
>>> +static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQ(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_FREQ1HM);
>> What???  Is it complaining about the 0200?  That is octal.  Why is
>> checkpatch complaining about this?  Am I wrong?  Maybe I am misreading.
>>
>> I could investigate, but I am leaving that task to you.  It may be that
>> checkpatch has a problem and you can fix that instead.
>>
> Yes, checkpatch seems to be confused here.
It seems to make an assumption that everything starting with 
IIO_DEV_ATTR_ has the mode field at the same position. Which is not the 
case.

https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/scripts/checkpatch.pl#L798

Still a good target to get this fixed as part of a outreachy task.


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* Re: Outreachy
  2023-03-15 14:03 ` Outreachy Dan Carpenter
@ 2023-03-15 19:24   ` Randy Dunlap
  2023-03-15 20:09     ` Outreachy Lars-Peter Clausen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2023-03-15 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dan Carpenter, Menna Mahmoud
  Cc: Michael.Hennerich, lars, jic23, gregkh, linux-iio, linux-staging,
	linux-kernel, Outreachy Linux Kernel



On 3/15/23 07:03, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 03:17:28PM +0200, Menna Mahmoud wrote:
>> Hi Mentors,
>>
>>
>> I am Menna, Outreachy applicant and I work on my clean-up patches.
>>
>> Is it Okay to work on this error reported by checkpatch script?
>>
>>
>> drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c
>> --------------------------------------
>> ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
>> #256: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:256:
>> +static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQ(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_FREQ1HM);
> 
> What???  Is it complaining about the 0200?  That is octal.  Why is
> checkpatch complaining about this?  Am I wrong?  Maybe I am misreading.
> 
> I could investigate, but I am leaving that task to you.  It may be that
> checkpatch has a problem and you can fix that instead.
> 

Yes, checkpatch seems to be confused here.

-- 
~Randy

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* Re: Outreachy
  2023-03-15 13:17 Outreachy Menna Mahmoud
@ 2023-03-15 14:03 ` Dan Carpenter
  2023-03-15 19:24   ` Outreachy Randy Dunlap
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Dan Carpenter @ 2023-03-15 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Menna Mahmoud
  Cc: Michael.Hennerich, lars, jic23, gregkh, linux-iio, linux-staging,
	linux-kernel, Outreachy Linux Kernel

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 03:17:28PM +0200, Menna Mahmoud wrote:
> Hi Mentors,
> 
> 
> I am Menna, Outreachy applicant and I work on my clean-up patches.
> 
> Is it Okay to work on this error reported by checkpatch script?
> 
> 
> drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c
> --------------------------------------
> ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
> #256: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:256:
> +static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQ(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_FREQ1HM);

What???  Is it complaining about the 0200?  That is octal.  Why is
checkpatch complaining about this?  Am I wrong?  Maybe I am misreading.

I could investigate, but I am leaving that task to you.  It may be that
checkpatch has a problem and you can fix that instead.

regards,
dan carpenter


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* Outreachy
@ 2023-03-15 13:17 Menna Mahmoud
  2023-03-15 14:03 ` Outreachy Dan Carpenter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Menna Mahmoud @ 2023-03-15 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michael.Hennerich, lars, jic23, gregkh, linux-iio, linux-staging,
	linux-kernel, Outreachy Linux Kernel

Hi Mentors,


I am Menna, Outreachy applicant and I work on my clean-up patches.

Is it Okay to work on this error reported by checkpatch script?


drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c
--------------------------------------
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#256: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:256:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQ(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_FREQ1HM);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#257: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:257:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_FREQSYMBOL(0, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, 
AD9832_FREQ_SYM);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#260: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:260:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PHASE(0, 0, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_PHASE0H);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#261: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:261:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PHASE(0, 1, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_PHASE1H);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#262: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:262:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PHASE(0, 2, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_PHASE2H);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#263: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:263:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PHASE(0, 3, 0200, NULL, ad9832_write, AD9832_PHASE3H);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#264: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:264:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PHASESYMBOL(0, 0200, NULL,
+                ad9832_write, AD9832_PHASE_SYM);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#268: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:268:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_PINCONTROL_EN(0, 0200, NULL,
+                ad9832_write, AD9832_PINCTRL_EN);
ERROR: Use 4 digit octal (0777) not decimal permissions
#270: FILE: drivers/staging/iio/frequency/ad9832.c:270:
+static IIO_DEV_ATTR_OUT_ENABLE(0, 0200, NULL,
+                ad9832_write, AD9832_OUTPUT_EN);
total: 9 errors, 0 warnings, 0 checks, 462 lines checked



Thanks in advance,

Menna




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* Re: Outreachy
  2023-03-07 12:25 Outreachy Menna Mahmoud
@ 2023-03-07 16:05 ` Alison Schofield
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Alison Schofield @ 2023-03-07 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Menna Mahmoud; +Cc: outreachy

On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 02:25:29PM +0200, Menna Mahmoud wrote:
> Hi there am Menna an Outreachy applicant,right now am working on my first patch. happy to be part of this community.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Menna
> 
>
Hi Menna,

Welcome to the Linux Kernel Community!

Alison


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* Outreachy
@ 2023-03-07 12:25 Menna Mahmoud
  2023-03-07 16:05 ` Outreachy Alison Schofield
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Menna Mahmoud @ 2023-03-07 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy

Hi there am Menna an Outreachy applicant,right now am working on my first patch. happy to be part of this community.

Thanks,

Menna


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* Re: Outreachy
  2019-10-07 20:36 ` Outreachy Emily Shaffer
@ 2019-10-08  8:27   ` Johannes Schindelin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Johannes Schindelin @ 2019-10-08  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emily Shaffer; +Cc: Rajni Jha, git

Hi Emily,

On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Emily Shaffer wrote:

> The community discussed the list of microprojects for applicants to
> try in this mailing list thread:
> https://public-inbox.org/git/20190916184208.GB17913@google.com/

An email thread is immutable, so maybe you want to transfer at least
some of the projects to https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/issues or to
https://crbug.com/git?

(I find the former easier to use, in particular because it makes
labeling more obvious, "good first issue" being the one to look for, but
I do understand that different people have different preferences.)

Ciao,
Johannes

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* Re: Outreachy
       [not found] <CAAe2+-RUhQDuw2kR4xCh2Sjh0CvpuBsWtK2iLmHih1iWtcP60w@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2019-10-07 20:36 ` Emily Shaffer
  2019-10-08  8:27   ` Outreachy Johannes Schindelin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread
From: Emily Shaffer @ 2019-10-07 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rajni Jha; +Cc: git

On Sun, Oct 06, 2019 at 01:32:54AM +0530, Rajni Jha wrote:
> Hello!
Welcome! Thank you for introducing yourself and please don't hesitate to
ask any questions you may have.

> 
> I am an outreachy applicant and I am looking forward to working with git
> for my outreachy internship.

Hope this will help you get started. The community discussed the list of
microprojects for applicants to try in this mailing list thread:
https://public-inbox.org/git/20190916184208.GB17913@google.com/
I don't think you need to wade through the replies on that thread to
determine whether the microproject you are interested in is available,
although you're certainly welcome to. You can also ask me if you see a
microproject you are interested in and I will be happy to help
summarize it and point you in the right direction :)

It is also probably a good idea for you to search that mailing list
archive for "[Outreachy]" so you can see what Outreachy interns have
done in the past and try to emulate how they submitted finished
microprojects. I also recommend that you read through
https://git-scm.com/docs/MyFirstContribution.html#ready-to-share to
learn how to share your code with us when you have finished.

 - Emily

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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-20 10:30               ` outreachy Greg KH
@ 2017-03-20 16:14                 ` Pavel Machek
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-20 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg KH
  Cc: Julia Lawall, devel, f.fainelli, sbranden, Stephen Warren,
	Scott Branden, lee, linux-kernel, eric, bcm-kernel-feedback-list,
	linux-rpi-kernel, rjui, linux-arm-kernel

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On Mon 2017-03-20 11:30:08, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > > > either:
> > > > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > > > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> > > 
> > > The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> > > get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> > > list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> > > lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> > > -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> > > replies and reminded people not to send you patches,
> > 
> > Wonderful :-(.
> > 
> > Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
> > subject so the emails are easier to delete?
> 
> It's easy for you to filter away as-is if you want to to by just looking
> at the cc: list for outreachy right now, don't make a new step for
> people to jump through because you don't want to be bothered.  You only
> have 10 more days of it if you want to just ignore any patch until
> then...

10 more days... I can survive 10 more days. I was afraid we would be
stuck with it "forever".
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-20 16:14                 ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-20 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Mon 2017-03-20 11:30:08, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > > > either:
> > > > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > > > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> > > 
> > > The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> > > get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> > > list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> > > lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> > > -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> > > replies and reminded people not to send you patches,
> > 
> > Wonderful :-(.
> > 
> > Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
> > subject so the emails are easier to delete?
> 
> It's easy for you to filter away as-is if you want to to by just looking
> at the cc: list for outreachy right now, don't make a new step for
> people to jump through because you don't want to be bothered.  You only
> have 10 more days of it if you want to just ignore any patch until
> then...

10 more days... I can survive 10 more days. I was afraid we would be
stuck with it "forever".
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-20 10:20             ` outreachy Pavel Machek
@ 2017-03-20 10:30               ` Greg KH
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-20 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek
  Cc: Julia Lawall, devel, f.fainelli, sbranden, Stephen Warren,
	Scott Branden, lee, linux-kernel, eric, bcm-kernel-feedback-list,
	linux-rpi-kernel, rjui, linux-arm-kernel

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > > >
> > > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > > either:
> > > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > > >
> > > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> > >
> > > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> > 
> > The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> > get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> > list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> > lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> > -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> > replies and reminded people not to send you patches,
> 
> Wonderful :-(.
> 
> Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
> subject so the emails are easier to delete?

It's easy for you to filter away as-is if you want to to by just looking
at the cc: list for outreachy right now, don't make a new step for
people to jump through because you don't want to be bothered.  You only
have 10 more days of it if you want to just ignore any patch until
then...

greg k-h

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-20 10:30               ` Greg KH
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-20 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > > >
> > > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > > either:
> > > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > > >
> > > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> > >
> > > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> > 
> > The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> > get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> > list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> > lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> > -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> > replies and reminded people not to send you patches,
> 
> Wonderful :-(.
> 
> Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
> subject so the emails are easier to delete?

It's easy for you to filter away as-is if you want to to by just looking
at the cc: list for outreachy right now, don't make a new step for
people to jump through because you don't want to be bothered.  You only
have 10 more days of it if you want to just ignore any patch until
then...

greg k-h

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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-17 16:55           ` outreachy Julia Lawall
@ 2017-03-20 10:20             ` Pavel Machek
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-20 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julia Lawall
  Cc: Greg KH, Stephen Warren, Scott Branden, lee, eric, f.fainelli,
	rjui, sbranden, bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel,
	linux-rpi-kernel, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

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Hi!

> > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > >
> > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > either:
> > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > >
> > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> >
> > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> 
> The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> replies and reminded people not to send you patches,

Wonderful :-(.

Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
subject so the emails are easier to delete?
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-20 10:20             ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-20 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

Hi!

> > > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > >
> > > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > > either:
> > > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> > >
> > > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > > in ways that is totally wrong.
> >
> > Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> > a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
> 
> The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
> get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
> list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
> lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
> -nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
> replies and reminded people not to send you patches,

Wonderful :-(.

Can we at least make  those people put the word "outreachy" in the
subject so the emails are easier to delete?
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-17 15:25         ` outreachy Pavel Machek
@ 2017-03-17 16:55           ` Julia Lawall
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2017-03-17 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pavel Machek
  Cc: Greg KH, Stephen Warren, Scott Branden, Julia Lawall, lee, eric,
	f.fainelli, rjui, sbranden, bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel,
	linux-rpi-kernel, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel



On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Pavel Machek wrote:

> Hi!
>
> >
> > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> >
> > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > either:
> > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> >
> > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > in ways that is totally wrong.
>
> Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.

The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
-nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
replies and reminded people not to send you patches,

julia


>
> 									Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
> (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
>

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-17 16:55           ` Julia Lawall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2017-03-17 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel



On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Pavel Machek wrote:

> Hi!
>
> >
> > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> >
> > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > either:
> > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> >
> > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > in ways that is totally wrong.
>
> Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
> a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.

The outreachy instructions say to use the -nol argument to
get_maintainers, which would prevent them from being sent to any mailing
list.  However others thought that all patches should be sent to mailing
lists, and so I haven't enforced anything for people who have omitted
-nol.  However I have tried to remove bcm maintainers from CC lists on
replies and reminded people not to send you patches,

julia


>
> 									Pavel
> --
> (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
> (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
>

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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 21:20       ` outreachy Greg KH
@ 2017-03-17 15:25         ` Pavel Machek
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-17 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg KH
  Cc: Stephen Warren, Scott Branden, Julia Lawall, lee, eric,
	f.fainelli, rjui, sbranden, bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel,
	linux-rpi-kernel, linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

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Hi!

> 
> Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> 
> I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> either:
> 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> 
> It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> in ways that is totally wrong.

Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
									
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-17 15:25         ` Pavel Machek
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2017-03-17 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

Hi!

> 
> Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> 
> I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> either:
> 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> 
> It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> in ways that is totally wrong.

Could we get these trivial patches off the lkml? Yes, lkml already has
a lot of traffic, but no, this is not useful :-(.
									
									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 22:15         ` outreachy Florian Fainelli
@ 2017-03-10  6:01           ` Greg KH
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-10  6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Fainelli
  Cc: Stephen Warren, devel, sbranden, Julia Lawall, rjui, lee,
	linux-kernel, eric, bcm-kernel-feedback-list, linux-rpi-kernel,
	Scott Branden, linux-arm-kernel

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 02:15:21PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 03/09/2017 01:20 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> >>> Hi Julia,
> >>>
> >>> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> >>>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> >>>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> >>>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> >>>> to be aware of.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
> >>>> but
> >>>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
> >>>
> >>> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> >>> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
> >>>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> >>> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
> >>
> >> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
> >> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.
> > 
> > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > 
> > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > either:
> > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> 
> Keep in mind that most people on this CC list are getting these patches
> because of the bcm283* regular expression, and maybe that's what needs
> fixing here in the first place.

Yes, I suggest the someone fixes that if they do not wish to get these
types of emails.  Having a regex like that in MAINTAINERS is very crazy,
from another thread I don't think it's really doing what you all want it
to do (meaning it's hitting a lot more files than expected.)

> > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > in ways that is totally wrong.
> 
> That is absolutely true, but the thing is that we really got a big spike
> of patch submissions lately, and that was totally not accepted. I am not
> asking for a "heads-up" email telling people that they are going to
> receive more traffic than usual (because that would be too much over
> head), but if there was an internal review first on the outreachy
> mailing-list and second a proper submission which is going to pass your
> acceptance criteria, we would be de facto reducing the amount of emails
> that we received.
> 
> The outreachy list obviously has people like you and Julia who are
> willing to help and provide feedback, so I really don't see what's the
> problem in setting up a two tier review here, it does not change
> anything for you, but it does change a lot for us.

Again, even if outreachy isn't happening, you are still going to be
getting these types of patches from all of the "normal" people that send
staging cleanup patches.  So it's not going to buy you all that much of
a reprieve.

So please send in a MAINTAINERS patch if you don't wish to get these
kinds of patches.  Or, again, just spend a day and send me cleanup
patches to keep anyone else from needing to send in basic checkpatch
fixes for this code.

thanks,

greg k-h

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-10  6:01           ` Greg KH
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-10  6:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 02:15:21PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 03/09/2017 01:20 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> >> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> >>> Hi Julia,
> >>>
> >>> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> >>>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> >>>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> >>>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> >>>> to be aware of.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
> >>>> but
> >>>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
> >>>
> >>> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> >>> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
> >>>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> >>> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
> >>
> >> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
> >> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.
> > 
> > Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> > if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> > mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> > 
> > I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> > either:
> > 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> > 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> > 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> > 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.
> 
> Keep in mind that most people on this CC list are getting these patches
> because of the bcm283* regular expression, and maybe that's what needs
> fixing here in the first place.

Yes, I suggest the someone fixes that if they do not wish to get these
types of emails.  Having a regex like that in MAINTAINERS is very crazy,
from another thread I don't think it's really doing what you all want it
to do (meaning it's hitting a lot more files than expected.)

> > It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> > it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> > in ways that is totally wrong.
> 
> That is absolutely true, but the thing is that we really got a big spike
> of patch submissions lately, and that was totally not accepted. I am not
> asking for a "heads-up" email telling people that they are going to
> receive more traffic than usual (because that would be too much over
> head), but if there was an internal review first on the outreachy
> mailing-list and second a proper submission which is going to pass your
> acceptance criteria, we would be de facto reducing the amount of emails
> that we received.
> 
> The outreachy list obviously has people like you and Julia who are
> willing to help and provide feedback, so I really don't see what's the
> problem in setting up a two tier review here, it does not change
> anything for you, but it does change a lot for us.

Again, even if outreachy isn't happening, you are still going to be
getting these types of patches from all of the "normal" people that send
staging cleanup patches.  So it's not going to buy you all that much of
a reprieve.

So please send in a MAINTAINERS patch if you don't wish to get these
kinds of patches.  Or, again, just spend a day and send me cleanup
patches to keep anyone else from needing to send in basic checkpatch
fixes for this code.

thanks,

greg k-h

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* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 21:20       ` outreachy Greg KH
@ 2017-03-09 22:15         ` Florian Fainelli
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Florian Fainelli @ 2017-03-09 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg KH, Stephen Warren
  Cc: Scott Branden, Julia Lawall, lee, eric, rjui, sbranden,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel, linux-rpi-kernel,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

On 03/09/2017 01:20 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
>>> Hi Julia,
>>>
>>> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
>>>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
>>>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
>>>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
>>>> to be aware of.
>>>>
>>>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
>>>> but
>>>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
>>>
>>> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
>>> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
>>>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
>>> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
>>
>> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
>> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.
> 
> Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> 
> I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> either:
> 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.

Keep in mind that most people on this CC list are getting these patches
because of the bcm283* regular expression, and maybe that's what needs
fixing here in the first place.

Incidentally, Stephen did send a patch to get him removed from the
MAINTAINERS entry for Raspberry Pi stuff, so I guess, problem solved for
him. We still have a ton of people from Broadcom who are going to
receive these emails, with mild interest in staging patches.

> 
> It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> in ways that is totally wrong.

That is absolutely true, but the thing is that we really got a big spike
of patch submissions lately, and that was totally not accepted. I am not
asking for a "heads-up" email telling people that they are going to
receive more traffic than usual (because that would be too much over
head), but if there was an internal review first on the outreachy
mailing-list and second a proper submission which is going to pass your
acceptance criteria, we would be de facto reducing the amount of emails
that we received.

The outreachy list obviously has people like you and Julia who are
willing to help and provide feedback, so I really don't see what's the
problem in setting up a two tier review here, it does not change
anything for you, but it does change a lot for us.
-- 
Florian

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 22:15         ` Florian Fainelli
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Florian Fainelli @ 2017-03-09 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 03/09/2017 01:20 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
>>> Hi Julia,
>>>
>>> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
>>>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
>>>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
>>>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
>>>> to be aware of.
>>>>
>>>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
>>>> but
>>>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
>>>
>>> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
>>> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
>>>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
>>> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
>>
>> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
>> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.
> 
> Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
> if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
> mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.
> 
> I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
> either:
> 	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
> 	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
> 	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
> 	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.

Keep in mind that most people on this CC list are getting these patches
because of the bcm283* regular expression, and maybe that's what needs
fixing here in the first place.

Incidentally, Stephen did send a patch to get him removed from the
MAINTAINERS entry for Raspberry Pi stuff, so I guess, problem solved for
him. We still have a ton of people from Broadcom who are going to
receive these emails, with mild interest in staging patches.

> 
> It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
> it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
> in ways that is totally wrong.

That is absolutely true, but the thing is that we really got a big spike
of patch submissions lately, and that was totally not accepted. I am not
asking for a "heads-up" email telling people that they are going to
receive more traffic than usual (because that would be too much over
head), but if there was an internal review first on the outreachy
mailing-list and second a proper submission which is going to pass your
acceptance criteria, we would be de facto reducing the amount of emails
that we received.

The outreachy list obviously has people like you and Julia who are
willing to help and provide feedback, so I really don't see what's the
problem in setting up a two tier review here, it does not change
anything for you, but it does change a lot for us.
-- 
Florian

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 20:56     ` outreachy Stephen Warren
@ 2017-03-09 21:20       ` Greg KH
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-09 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stephen Warren
  Cc: Scott Branden, Julia Lawall, lee, eric, f.fainelli, rjui,
	sbranden, bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel, linux-rpi-kernel,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> > Hi Julia,
> > 
> > On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> > > not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> > > While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> > > starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> > > to be aware of.
> > > 
> > > Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
> > > but
> > > you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
> >
> > All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> > to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
> >  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> > any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
> 
> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.

Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.

I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
either:
	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.

It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
in ways that is totally wrong.

thanks,

greg k-h

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 21:20       ` Greg KH
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Greg KH @ 2017-03-09 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:56:49PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> > Hi Julia,
> > 
> > On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> > > not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> > > While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> > > starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> > > to be aware of.
> > > 
> > > Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
> > > but
> > > you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
> >
> > All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> > to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
> >  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> > any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
> 
> +1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a
> filter to keep them out of my primary inbox.

Hah!  That's the joy of being a maintainer of a driver in staging.  Even
if you filter out outreachy, you are going to get a lot of "basic
mistakes" and other type patches cc:ed to you.

I strongly suggest, that if you all don't like this type of stuff,
either:
	- work to get the code out of staging as soon as possible (i.e.
	  send me coding style fixes for everything right now, and then
	  fix up the rest of the stuff.)
	- take yourself off the maintainer list for this code.

It's your choice, outreachy right now is a lot of patches, but again,
it's not going to keep you from getting the "basic" stuff sent to you
in ways that is totally wrong.

thanks,

greg k-h

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 20:51   ` outreachy Scott Branden
@ 2017-03-09 20:56     ` Stephen Warren
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Warren @ 2017-03-09 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Scott Branden, Julia Lawall
  Cc: lee, eric, f.fainelli, rjui, sbranden, gregkh,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel, linux-rpi-kernel,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> Hi Julia,
>
> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
>> to be aware of.
>>
>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
>> but
>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
 >
> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.

+1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a 
filter to keep them out of my primary inbox. I don't know what process 
is in place, but I would suggest:

1) Senders send everything to the outreachy list, where they are 
reviewed for basic issues, like learning to use git send-email, learning 
checkpatch, etc. In this case, only send the patch to the outreachy 
mailing list and nowhere else.

2) Once a patch has passed review there, then send the patch to the 
regular kernel mailing list just like any other patch; follow the output 
of get_maintainers.pl.

We have something like (1) inside NVIDIA for new contributors and 
pre-upstreaming IP review. It helps all the newcomers, but without 
requiring anyone involved in (2) to change behaviour.

The process I suggest is very much inline with the typically suggested 
"asking questions" process: (1) read docs yourself (2) ask local 
contacts for help, (3) start asking wider audiences for help.

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* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 20:56     ` Stephen Warren
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Stephen Warren @ 2017-03-09 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

On 03/09/2017 01:51 PM, Scott Branden wrote:
> Hi Julia,
>
> On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
>> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
>> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
>> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
>> to be aware of.
>>
>> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches,
>> but
>> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
 >
> All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first
> to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating.
>  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like
> any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.

+1 from me too; I find these patches rather high volume and had to add a 
filter to keep them out of my primary inbox. I don't know what process 
is in place, but I would suggest:

1) Senders send everything to the outreachy list, where they are 
reviewed for basic issues, like learning to use git send-email, learning 
checkpatch, etc. In this case, only send the patch to the outreachy 
mailing list and nowhere else.

2) Once a patch has passed review there, then send the patch to the 
regular kernel mailing list just like any other patch; follow the output 
of get_maintainers.pl.

We have something like (1) inside NVIDIA for new contributors and 
pre-upstreaming IP review. It helps all the newcomers, but without 
requiring anyone involved in (2) to change behaviour.

The process I suggest is very much inline with the typically suggested 
"asking questions" process: (1) read docs yourself (2) ask local 
contacts for help, (3) start asking wider audiences for help.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* Re: outreachy
  2017-03-09 20:36 ` outreachy Julia Lawall
@ 2017-03-09 20:51   ` Scott Branden
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Scott Branden @ 2017-03-09 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Julia Lawall
  Cc: swarren, lee, eric, f.fainelli, rjui, sbranden, gregkh,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel, linux-rpi-kernel,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

Hi Julia,

On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> to be aware of.
>
> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches, but
> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first 
to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating. 
  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like 
any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
>
> thanks,
> julia
>

Thanks,
Scott

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 20:51   ` Scott Branden
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Scott Branden @ 2017-03-09 20:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

Hi Julia,

On 17-03-09 12:36 PM, Julia Lawall wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
> not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
> While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
> starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
> to be aware of.
>
> Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches, but
> you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?
All I'm asking is you work through your outreachy patches internal first 
to get rid of the most basic mistakes and email traffic it is geerating. 
  Once that learning process is through then they can be sent out like 
any other patches to the kernel mailing lists and maintainers.
>
> thanks,
> julia
>

Thanks,
Scott

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 20:36 ` Julia Lawall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2017-03-09 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Scott Branden
  Cc: swarren, lee, eric, f.fainelli, rjui, sbranden, gregkh,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list, devel, linux-rpi-kernel,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-kernel

Hello,

I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
to be aware of.

Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches, but
you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?

thanks,
julia

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* outreachy
@ 2017-03-09 20:36 ` Julia Lawall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2017-03-09 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

Hello,

I discussed the issue of outreachy patches for bcm with Greg, and we are
not convinced that not having the patches CCd to you is such a good idea.
While we don't want to spam you with noise, some of the applicants are
starting to make more significant changes that it could be useful for you
to be aware of.

Could we try a compromise where you are not CCd on whitespace patches, but
you are CCd on patches that actually modify the code?

thanks,
julia

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* Re: outreachy
  2016-09-30 20:40 outreachy Julia Lawall
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2016-10-01 18:18 ` outreachy Namrata A Shettar
@ 2016-10-03  9:27 ` Georgiana Chelu
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Georgiana Chelu @ 2016-10-03  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel


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Hello,

My choice is IIO driver.

Georgiana
 
On Friday, 30 September 2016 23:40:12 UTC+3, Julia Lawall wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> We are around the halfway mark of the application period. 
>
> So that I can get an overview of the current interests of the applicants, 
> could you send me a list of your current first and second project choices? 
> It's OK to change your mind later, but I would like to know what everyone 
> is thinking about now. 
>
> Please do this even if you don't yet have many accepted patches. 
>
> thanks, 
> julia 
>

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* Re: outreachy
  2016-09-30 20:40 outreachy Julia Lawall
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2016-10-01  8:41 ` outreachy Bhumika Goyal
@ 2016-10-01 18:18 ` Namrata A Shettar
  2016-10-03  9:27 ` outreachy Georgiana Chelu
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Namrata A Shettar @ 2016-10-01 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel


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Hi,
    My first two choices  are :
 
    1) nftables ( Mentor : Pablo Neira Ayuso )

    2) Coccinelle ( Mentor : Julia Lawall )

    I haven't completely ruled out the other projects!

Thanks!

namrata

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* Re: outreachy
  2016-09-30 20:40 outreachy Julia Lawall
  2016-10-01  4:04 ` outreachy Rehas Sachdeva
  2016-10-01  7:51 ` outreachy keila novo
@ 2016-10-01  8:41 ` Bhumika Goyal
  2016-10-01 18:18 ` outreachy Namrata A Shettar
  2016-10-03  9:27 ` outreachy Georgiana Chelu
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Bhumika Goyal @ 2016-10-01  8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel


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Hey Julia,
My top two choices are:
1. Coccinelle
2. radix tree __alloc_fd

Thanks,
Bhumika

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:10:12 AM UTC+5:30, Julia Lawall wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> We are around the halfway mark of the application period. 
>
> So that I can get an overview of the current interests of the applicants, 
> could you send me a list of your current first and second project choices? 
> It's OK to change your mind later, but I would like to know what everyone 
> is thinking about now. 
>
> Please do this even if you don't yet have many accepted patches. 
>
> thanks, 
> julia 
>

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* Re: outreachy
  2016-09-30 20:40 outreachy Julia Lawall
  2016-10-01  4:04 ` outreachy Rehas Sachdeva
@ 2016-10-01  7:51 ` keila novo
  2016-10-01  8:41 ` outreachy Bhumika Goyal
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: keila novo @ 2016-10-01  7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel


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El viernes, 30 de septiembre de 2016, 22:40:12 (UTC+2), Julia Lawall 
escribió:
>
> Hello, 
>
> We are around the halfway mark of the application period. 
>
> So that I can get an overview of the current interests of the applicants, 
> could you send me a list of your current first and second project choices? 
> It's OK to change your mind later, but I would like to know what everyone 
> is thinking about now. 
>
> Please do this even if you don't yet have many accepted patches. 
>
> thanks, 
> julia 
>


 Hi Julia,

My first two choices are:
1. Coccinelle
2.IIO driver.

Thanks,
Keila

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* Re: outreachy
  2016-09-30 20:40 outreachy Julia Lawall
@ 2016-10-01  4:04 ` Rehas Sachdeva
  2016-10-01  7:51 ` outreachy keila novo
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Rehas Sachdeva @ 2016-10-01  4:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel


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Hi Julia,

My first two choices are:

1. radix tree __alloc_fd.
2. Coccinelle.

Thanks
Rehas

On Saturday, October 1, 2016 at 2:10:12 AM UTC+5:30, Julia Lawall wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> We are around the halfway mark of the application period. 
>
> So that I can get an overview of the current interests of the applicants, 
> could you send me a list of your current first and second project choices? 
> It's OK to change your mind later, but I would like to know what everyone 
> is thinking about now. 
>
> Please do this even if you don't yet have many accepted patches. 
>
> thanks, 
> julia 
>

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* outreachy
@ 2016-09-30 20:40 Julia Lawall
  2016-10-01  4:04 ` outreachy Rehas Sachdeva
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Julia Lawall @ 2016-09-30 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: outreachy-kernel

Hello,

We are around the halfway mark of the application period.

So that I can get an overview of the current interests of the applicants,
could you send me a list of your current first and second project choices?
It's OK to change your mind later, but I would like to know what everyone
is thinking about now.

Please do this even if you don't yet have many accepted patches.

thanks,
julia


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread

* Re: Outreachy
       [not found] <CACEff1gwioYfk=9wfUtPfDEpuK0CULw3iQBhtyj0CrLfC4VAuQ@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2016-03-18  9:06 ` Lars Kurth
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread
From: Lars Kurth @ 2016-03-18  9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: renata gegaj; +Cc: Lars Kurth, Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona, Xen-devel


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Hi Renata

adding Jesus and xen-devel

> On 18 Mar 2016, at 03:37, renata gegaj <gegajrenata@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Lars,
> 
> I am Renata Gegaj a student from Kosovo.  I study computer science and engineering. This is my first time participating in the Outreachy program, it is also the first time I contribute to an open source project. I have some basics skills in Java, SQL and HTML5 and I am interested in the Xen Code Review Dashboard. 
> Is there a spot where I could contribute?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Kindly,
> Renata.


Before thinking about contributing, you should first set up a work environment and play with it. This should be doable in a few hours. So how about, you perform the following steps and then get back to us for a little task.

@Jesus: The application deadline is on Tue next week. Maybe we can outline a task today. It would have to be around the code in https://github.com/dicortazar/xen-code-review-analysis/tree/master <https://github.com/dicortazar/xen-code-review-analysis/tree/master>

To get started, you will need kibana and elasticsearch - packages for these should be in any distro and can be installed via apt-get or yum mailing lists and git. The test data sets are at http://projects.bitergia.com/xen-project-dashboard/browser/data/db/ <http://projects.bitergia.com/xen-project-dashboard/browser/data/db/>, but you can also apply the scripts (but these need access to mailboxes to be downloaded to be run - I can get you access to a month or two months worth of mailboxes).

There is lots of info on getting Kibana and Elastic search going and you may want to check out
- https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/_installation.html
- https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/setup.html
Then
- Connect all to the test data sets
- Explore and get familiar with the tools
- Come back with some questions
The hosted prototype versions of the dashboards are at http://kibana-xen.bitergia.com <http://kibana-xen.bitergia.com/>. When you install Elasticsearch and Kibana, the pre-defined search queries and view panels won't be there by default. But you will be able to explore the raw data from the SQL test data sets. Note that they were created with MetricsGrimoire tools and the tools in https://github.com/dicortazar/xen-code-review-analysis/tree/master <https://github.com/dicortazar/xen-code-review-analysis/tree/master>. 

As one of the goals is to use Perceval to do this, you may also want to
- Get and build Perceval from https://github.com/grimoirelab/perceval
- Explore the test data set SQL structure with an appropriate tool
- Read through the Perceval man pages and do some experimentation and come back with some questions

We can then work through the questions and chose appropriate next steps: but from that point onwards we probably need Jesus input. However, time is getting tight with the application deadline being on the 22nd.

Regards
Lars
P.S.: Jesus normally hangs out on #metrics-grimoire nick jgbarah

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