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From: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>
To: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@samba.org>,
	"J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp>,
	Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Piszcz <ap@solarrain.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel 3.0: Instant kernel crash when mounting CIFS (also crashes with linux-3.1-rc2
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:02:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH2r5msrKqmMY4=NP4VvOYNMerB-+Cu+6ba4+0fZcFEqFmcdYw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108181452080.7903@p34.internal.lan>

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Jeff Layton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:18:15 -0400 (EDT)
>> Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Like I said, read performance with cifs.ko just plain sucks currently.
>>
>> Don't look for cifs.ko to achieve anywhere near NFS' performance unless
>> you jump through some very odd hoops (like multithreading your workload
>> in userspace, etc). cifs.ko just doesn't do a good job of keeping the
>> pipe "stuffed" as most calls are handled synchronously. A single task
>> can only handle one call on the wire in most cases. The exception here
>> is writes, but that just recently changed...
>>
>> Reads are done using relatively small buffers and then copied to
>> pagecache. Part of what I'm working on will be to allow for much larger
>> reads directly into the pagecache. That should also help performance
>> significantly.

As Jeff notes, large file sequential read of one file at a time is going
to be cifs kernel client's worst case.   An earlier cifs async patchset
(prototype) showed dramatic improvements so it is not
inherent in the protocol and I am looking forward to seeing
Jeff's patches for this.

With multiple processes reading/writing cifs does pretty well
(since the worst case serialization is in cifs_readpages,
coupled with the relatively small buffer size on reads), as long as
you are accessing various files at one time.   I have seen
cifs beat nfs on broader tests such as dbench when lots of activity on the
wire from multiple processes - but meant to do a dbench run
on recent kernels to compare.   Would be interesting to compare
dbench now (with e.g. more than 30 processes) on nfs mount to
cifs mount.


-- 
Thanks,

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-18 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-15  9:10 Kernel 3.0: Instant kernel crash when mounting CIFS Justin Piszcz
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108150506310.7571-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15  9:18   ` Jesper Juhl
2011-08-15  9:18     ` Jesper Juhl
     [not found]     ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1108151117480.19668-h2p7t3/P30RzeRGmFJ5qR7ZzlVVXadcDXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 10:47       ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-15 10:47         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <20110815064734.403b630f-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 10:54           ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-15 10:54             ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]             ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108150653200.7571-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 18:01               ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-15 18:01                 ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108151357200.32349-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-15 18:09                   ` Steve French
2011-08-15 18:09                     ` Steve French
2011-08-15 19:31                   ` Dave Jones
2011-08-15 19:31                     ` Dave Jones
2011-08-17 19:16                   ` Kernel 3.0: Instant kernel crash when mounting CIFS (also crashes with linux-3.1-rc2 Justin Piszcz
2011-08-17 19:16                     ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171545190.5877@p34.internal.lan>
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171545190.5877-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 19:47                         ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-17 19:47                           ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171547110.5877-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 20:13                             ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-17 20:13                               ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                               ` <20110817161349.072e1452-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 20:45                                 ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-17 20:45                                   ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171644050.11234-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 21:11                                     ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-17 21:11                                       ` Arnaud Lacombe
2011-08-17 21:53                                       ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171751570.11234-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 22:13                                           ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-17 22:13                                             ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                             ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171813460.11234-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 22:18                                               ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-17 22:18                                                 ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108171515050.5877-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-17 23:31                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2011-08-17 23:31                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-08-18  3:19                       ` J. R. Okajima
2011-08-18  3:19                         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-08-18 10:35                         ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 10:35                           ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108180632000.10458-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 12:14                             ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 12:14                               ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108180807070.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 12:22                                 ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 12:22                                   ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108180821440.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 13:11                                     ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 13:11                                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 13:15                                       ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108180914180.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 17:04                                           ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 17:04                                             ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                             ` <20110818130408.71c55b96-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 17:15                                               ` Steve French
2011-08-18 17:15                                                 ` Steve French
2011-08-18 17:16                                               ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 17:16                                                 ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108181314310.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 17:25                                                   ` Steve French
2011-08-18 17:25                                                     ` Steve French
     [not found]                                                     ` <CAH2r5mvNkUWh0rYTbTEWmUPiRsxUbmrGNpTOaebiG0CCKRfA1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 17:33                                                       ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 17:33                                                         ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108181331180.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 17:43                                                           ` Steve French
2011-08-18 17:43                                                             ` Steve French
     [not found]                                                             ` <CAH2r5msTpKdxwpgG+-3-gkkr5h7Ox1tL86q3LyTBMd1V8WS7aQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 18:18                                                               ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 18:18                                                                 ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                                                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108181413030.7903-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 18:52                                                                   ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 18:52                                                                     ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20110818145257.035a38e9-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 18:54                                                                       ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 18:54                                                                         ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-18 19:02                                                                         ` Steve French [this message]
2011-08-26 21:59                                                                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-26 21:59                                                                         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20110826175940.2830044d-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 22:57                                                                           ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-26 22:57                                                                             ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                                                             ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108261844170.2203-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 23:05                                                                               ` Steve French
2011-08-26 23:05                                                                                 ` Steve French
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <CAH2r5mtrUq4aTHgqRyG-YZZoUztU4_k4rh+nXrN13CVckex8ZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 23:16                                                                                   ` Justin Piszcz
2011-08-26 23:16                                                                                     ` Justin Piszcz
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1108261914250.2203-0qmrozcXWo8bm2hyYBkBBg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-27 14:31                                                                                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-27 14:31                                                                                         ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 18:33                                                       ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 18:33                                                         ` Jeff Layton
2011-08-18 17:36                                                     ` Kong Li
2011-08-18 14:19                                 ` J. R. Okajima
2011-08-18 14:19                                   ` J. R. Okajima
2011-08-18 16:01                                 ` Steve French
2011-08-18 16:01                                   ` Steve French
     [not found]                                   ` <CAH2r5mv9cdP_05dzmGZ_mVOswgNGVViU8Y3Z2Su+JT2Jv2TbSA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-18 16:02                                     ` Steve French
2011-08-18 16:02                                       ` Steve French

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