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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	SElinux list <selinux@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possibly unwanted rootcontext= behavior?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 23:12:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhTwA8MS5_smPux07bbr0vNj1iWrm0Ywm=7M8TEU3k9j3A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEjxPJ6d4VN7TfJXMT-RGtZ=_rje_=27T5XhXrt9iRdvQuVCdw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 12:28 PM Stephen Smalley
<stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 12:22 PM Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 4:31 PM Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 8:51 AM Stephen Smalley
> > > <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 7:44 AM Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > while trying to fix the NFS rootcontext= issue, I realized that this
> > > > > funny thing is possible:
> > > > >
> > > > > # mount -o rootcontext=system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0 -t tmpfs tmpfs /mnt
> > > > > # ls -lZd /mnt
> > > > > drwxrwxrwt. 2 root root system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0 40 nov  5 07:30 /mnt
> > > > > # mount
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > tmpfs on /mnt type tmpfs
> > > > > (rw,relatime,rootcontext=system_u:object_r:lib_t:s0,seclabel)
> > > > > # chcon -t bin_t /mnt
> > > > > # ls -lZd /mnt
> > > > > drwxrwxrwt. 2 root root system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0 40 nov  5 07:30 /mnt
> > > > > # mount
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > tmpfs on /mnt type tmpfs
> > > > > (rw,relatime,rootcontext=system_u:object_r:bin_t:s0,seclabel)
> > > > >
> > > > > I.e. if you mount a tree with rootcontext=<oldctx> and then relabel
> > > > > the root node to <newctx>, the displayed mount options will report
> > > > > rootcontext=<newctx> instead of rootcontext=<oldctx>. A side effect is
> > > > > that if you try to mount the same superblock again, it will only
> > > > > permit you to mount with rootcontext=<newctx>, not with
> > > > > rootcontext=<oldctx>.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that intended, bad, or "weird, but doesn't matter" behavior?
> > > >
> > > > I'd say it is bad.
> > > >
> > > > > I have a halfway written patch to disallow altering the root node's
> > > > > context when mounted with rootcontext=, but I'm not sure if that's the
> > > > > right thing to do or not.
> > > >
> > > > Probably the better fix would be to save the original rootcontext SID
> > > > as a new field of the
> > > > superblock security struct and use that both when displaying the mount
> > > > options and when
> > > > comparing old and new mount options instead of what happens to be
> > > > assigned to the root
> > > > inode at the time.
> > >
> > > I worry that would be confusing, allowing the root inode to be
> > > relabeled yet still showing the old label in the mount options.  It
> > > would seem that simply blocking a root inode relabel when a
> > > rootcontext is specified would be the cleanest choice, assuming
> > > existing systems do not rely on this behavior.
> > >
> > > Ondrej, Stephen, any idea how common this is on normal systems?  My
> > > gut feeling says "not very common", but that is just a guess.
> >
> > I don't even know what use case it's supposed to solve :) I suppose if
> > you freshly format some storage drive and you want the root dir to be
> > labeled immediately after mounting, rootcontext= could be useful. For
> > such a use case Stephen's approach would make sense (you might still
> > want to eventually relabel the root dir to something else), but there
> > are some gotchas... For example, the label is initially set only in
> > the inode security struct, but not written to the xattrs (I only
> > looked at the code briefly, I could be wrong here), so you would still
> > need to manually set the label on the root directory after mounting
> > for the label to persist. And if you remount the superblock after
> > changing the label, the internal label will be reset to the old one
> > (which you are forced to specify in the mount options), but again not
> > persistently. That's all very unintuitive.
> >
> > So, IMHO, good ways to fix it are either disallowing changing the
> > label altogether, or making sure the label is propagated to the xattrs
> > (if supported) and allowing to remount with a different rootcontext=
> > option (or with no rootcontext). But that's only if I guessed the use
> > case correctly.
>
> I think the original use case was primarily tmpfs mounts, so that e.g.
> one could mount a tmpfs on /dev that is immediately labeled with
> device_t.
>
> Not fundamentally opposed to preventing relabeling afterward but
> always possible that could break existing userspace somewhere.

I'd be curious to see what sort of breakage, if any, we might see if
we blocked the relabel when rootcontext is in use.  Ondrej, any chance
you can finish that patch enough to do some basic testing?

-- 
paul moore
www.paul-moore.com

      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06  4:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-05 12:44 Possibly unwanted rootcontext= behavior? Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-11-05 13:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-11-05 15:31   ` Paul Moore
2020-11-05 17:22     ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-11-05 17:28       ` Stephen Smalley
2020-11-05 17:36         ` Stephen Smalley
2020-11-06  4:12         ` Paul Moore [this message]

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