From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-f46.google.com ([209.85.218.46]:35982 "EHLO mail-oi0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754884AbcC3Vpu (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:45:50 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id r187so34371464oih.3 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:45:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:45:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: commit 7c2dad99d6 "Don't let the ctime override attribute barriers" From: Trond Myklebust To: Olga Kornievskaia Cc: linux-nfs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Olga Kornievskaia wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Olga Kornievskaia wrote: >> I think that patch introduces a problem. Since the checking for the >> change in ctime was removed by the commit it leads to (improper) cache >> invalidation in NFSv3. >> >> Test is write 10240bytes to the server then read it. Expectation is >> not to see read on the wire. In the test the write is spread over >> 3rpcs. >> >> On the 1nd reply >> fattr->gencount=33 nfsi->gencount=32 generation_counter=35 >> On the 2nd reply >> fattr->gencount=34 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=36 >> >> In the code when processing 2nd reply, >> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc_locked() calls into >> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() it determines that it doesn't need to >> update them (even though the size and the time have changed). so it >> doesn't call nfs_wcc_update_inode() so the inode->i_version doesn't >> get set to the ctime that was received in the 2nd reply. >> >> On the 3rd reply >> fattr->gencount=37 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=37 >> >> It leads to nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() returns 1 and in the >> nfs_update_inode() the difference in the ctimes leads to invalidation. >> fattr->gencount was update from nfs_writeback_update_node() -> >> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc() calling nfs_fattr_set_barrier(). >> >> I'm not sure what appropriate values for "gencount" should have been. >> But if the check for nfs_ctime_need_update() was still there in >> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() then the 2nd reply would have >> appropriately updated the i_version and not lead to invalidation. > > Would like to add that this problem is not seen against the Linux > server because it doesn't send "before" attributes. So code doesn't > set the "pre_change_attr" which later doesn't make what's stored in > inode->i_version. > > The problem also not seen for v4 because pre_change_attr is not gotten > from the "before" attributes but instead from the previous value in > inode->i_version which is then compared to the itself. > > If reverting the problematic commit is not the solution, then how > about ignoring the "before" ctime attributes sent by the server. This > also helps with the out-of-order RPCs. Why bother doing that on the client? These attributes aren't mandatory to send... Cheers Trond