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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: re. Spurious wakeup on a newly created kthread
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 11:25:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wgTG2K3erROP19320zBN6BHVf0hRfXGdawkGR4gzrJN6w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874k0863x8.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 10:36 AM Eric W. Biederman
<ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> Let me suggest someone create a new variant of kthread_create that takes
> all of the parameters the workqueue code wants to set.

I suspect the real issue is that that the kthread code simply
shouldn't use the kernel_thread() helper at all.

That helper is literally designed for "start a thread, run this thing".

That's what it *does*.

And that's not at all what the kthread code wants. It wants to set
affinity masks, it wants to create a name for the thread, it wants to
do all those other things.

That code really wants to just do copy_process().

Or maybe it really should just use create_io_thread(), which has a
much better interface, except it has that one oddity in that it sets
the flag that does this:

        if (args->io_thread) {
                /*
                 * Mark us an IO worker, and block any signal that isn't
                 * fatal or STOP
                 */
                p->flags |= PF_IO_WORKER;
                siginitsetinv(&p->blocked, sigmask(SIGKILL)|sigmask(SIGSTOP));
        }

that then has special semantics.

Now, those special semantics may actually be exactly what kthreads
wants, but they are important:

                /*
                 * PF_IO_WORKER threads will catch and exit on fatal signals
                 * themselves. They have cleanup that must be performed, so
                 * we cannot call do_exit() on their behalf.
                 */

which is about that "what happens for fatal signals" thing.

               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-25 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-22 14:08 [PATCH] workqueue: Make create_worker() safe against spurious wakeups Petr Mladek
2022-06-23  7:00 ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-23  7:14   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-26  4:19   ` Hillf Danton
2022-06-25  5:00 ` re. Spurious wakeup on a newly created kthread Tejun Heo
2022-06-25 17:01   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-25 17:36     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-25 18:25       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-06-25 18:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-25 23:28           ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-25 23:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-25 23:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-25 23:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26  0:19                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-27  0:01                   ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-27  7:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-27 18:23                       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-27 18:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26 19:14                 ` [PATCH 0/3] kthread: Stop using TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26 19:15                   ` [PATCH 1/3] kthread: Remove the flags argument from kernel_thread Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26 21:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26 19:16                   ` [PATCH 2/3] kthread: Replace kernel_thread with new_kthread Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26 19:16                   ` [PATCH 3/3] kthread: Stop abusing TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE (INCOMPLETE) Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26 19:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26 20:23                       ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-26 20:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-27  7:22                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-27  8:11                           ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-27 18:04                             ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-27 22:06                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-27 22:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-27 22:45                                 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-28  0:32                                 ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-28  7:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-30  0:57                                     ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2022-06-26 22:14                     ` kernel test robot
2022-06-26 22:34                     ` kernel test robot
2022-06-26  0:21               ` re. Spurious wakeup on a newly created kthread Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-28 14:16           ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-26  0:26         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-06-26  1:58     ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-26  2:53       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26  6:09         ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-27 12:04         ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-28  9:51     ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-28 10:07       ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-27  8:07   ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-27  8:21     ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-27 10:18       ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-28 15:08     ` Petr Mladek
2022-08-04  8:57 ` [PATCH] workqueue: Make create_worker() safe against spurious wakeups Lai Jiangshan
2022-08-04 10:19   ` Lai Jiangshan

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