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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: users@linux.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Github PR bot questions
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:24:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whEZ23h_Gvg3aOuQgXbUjxn6gwvcS2dHawkPgpDwKmssw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210616171813.bwvu6mtl4ltotf7p@nitro.local>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 10:18 AM Konstantin Ryabitsev
<konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> - My general assumption is that putting this bot on github.com/torvalds/linux
>   would not be useful, as this will probably result in more noise than signal.

Yeah, I've had to turn off all emails from github because it's too
noisy. Github also makes it very easyt to "invite" people to be team
members, whether they want to or not, so I'm a "member" of random
projects. There needs to be some way to make this _very_ much opt-in,
not "anybody can do anything whether the target is ok with it or not".

I do think that having a way to generate patch series would be good,
but I really really hope your robot would have

 (a) some limit on sizes

 (b) check that the commit messages are well-formed

I've seen a lot of github code that doesn't have the Linux kernel kind
of "good commit messages required".

And no, it's not just about proper sign-off chains. It's about things
like "proper one-line header". It's about things like "actual
whitespace and proper line breaks and indentation for quoted text
etc".

I see way too many projects that have a mess of unwrapped (or purely
auto-wrapped) wall of text for commit messages. I think some of the
"do commits in the browser" workflows seem to think it's ok to have
reflowed text and not have proper formatting of quoting (error
messages) etc.

Yes, yes, that happens in emailed patches too (I actually spend time
on emailed patches making sure 'dmesg' snippets are cleaned up etc -
not everybody does), but it happens a _lot_ in other projects that
don't have quote the same quality requirements for commit messages
that we do.

               Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-16 17:18 RFC: Github PR bot questions Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-16 17:24 ` Drew DeVault
2021-06-16 17:47 ` Johannes Berg
2021-06-16 17:55   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-16 18:13     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-06-17 17:07       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found] ` <CAJhbpm_BgbSx581HU0mTCkcE28n_hRx=tv74az_mE2VBmPtrVA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-06-16 18:05   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-16 18:11 ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-06-16 18:22   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-16 18:38     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-06-16 20:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-06-17 15:11   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-17 15:25     ` Willy Tarreau
2021-06-16 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2021-06-17 15:09   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-16 21:11 ` Rob Herring
2021-06-16 21:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-06-16 21:59     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-16 22:33   ` James Bottomley
2021-06-17 14:18     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-17 14:27       ` James Bottomley
2021-06-17  6:52   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-06-17  8:20     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-06-17  8:55       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-06-17  9:33         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-06-17  9:52           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-17 14:33         ` Rob Herring
2021-06-17 15:24           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-06-17 15:38             ` Rob Herring
2021-06-17 15:45             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17 14:02     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-17 14:47   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-17 15:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2021-06-17 15:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17 15:53         ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-06-17 17:15     ` Rob Herring
2021-06-17  6:37 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-06-17  7:30 ` Greg KH
2021-06-17 14:59   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-17  8:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17  8:33   ` Jiri Kosina
2021-06-17  9:52     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2021-06-17 10:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-17 14:57         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-06-17 15:16           ` Mark Brown
2021-06-17 15:24             ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-06-17 16:36               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-06-17 18:43               ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-06-17 15:31             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-06-17 17:06               ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-06-17 22:35                 ` Jiri Kosina
2021-06-17 14:23       ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-06-17 20:42 ` Brendan Higgins

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