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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com>
Cc: "Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Nishanth Aravamudan" <naravamudan@digitalocean.com>,
	"Julien Desfossez" <jdesfossez@digitalocean.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Tim Chen" <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul Turner" <pjt@google.com>,
	vpillai <vpillai@digitalocean.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Greg Kerr" <kerrnel@google.com>, "Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>,
	"Aaron Lu" <aaron.lwe@gmail.com>,
	"Aubrey Li" <aubrey.intel@gmail.com>,
	aubrey.li@linux.intel.com,
	"Valentin Schneider" <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Pawan Gupta" <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 09:33:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=whseFhtS+74FkNX=q=+-URQoG_7OiVzCokKbFNjFgSiAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJmaN=nq7qaLRdN6CTAqtYy4nfMe4NvAutF5m2v-Ng+5Kijx_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:58 PM Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@google.com> wrote:
>
> Expanding on this a little, we're working on a couple of projects that
> should provide results like these for upstream.  One is continuously
> rebasing our upstream backlog onto new kernels for testing purposes
> (the idea here is to make it easier for us to update kernels on
> Chromebooks),

Lovely. Not just for any performance work that comes out of this, but
hopefully this means that we'll also have quick problem reports if
something happens that affects chrome.

There's certainly been issues on the server side of google where we
made changes (*cough*cgroup*cough*) which didn't make anybody really
blink until years after the fact.. Which ends up being very
inconvenient when other parts of the community have been using the new
features for years.

> and the second is to drive more stuff into the
> kernelci.org infrastructure.  Given the test environments we have in
> place now, we can probably get results from our continuous rebase
> project first and provide those against -rc releases if that's
> something you'd be interested in.

I think the more automated (or regular, or close-to-upstream)
real-world testing that we get, the better off we are.  We have a
number of regular distributions that track the upstream kernel fairly
closely, so we get a fair amount of coverage for the normal desktop
loads.

And the bots are doing great, but they tend to test very specific
things (in the case of "syzbot" the "specific" thing is obviously
pretty far-ranging, but it's still very small details). And latency
has always been harder to really test (outside of the truly trivial
microbenchmarks), so the fact that it sounds like you're going to test
not only a different environment than the usual distros but have a few
macro-level latency tests just sounds lovely in general.

Let's see how lovely I think it is once you start sending regression reports..

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-22 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 16:59 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] sched: Wrap rq::lock access vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] sched: Core-wide rq->lock vpillai
2020-04-01 11:42   ` [PATCH] sched/arm64: store cpu topology before notify_cpu_starting Cheng Jian
2020-04-01 13:23     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-01 13:23       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-06  8:00       ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-06  8:00         ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-09  9:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09  9:59         ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 10:32         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-09 10:32           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-09 11:08           ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 11:08             ` Sudeep Holla
2020-04-09 17:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-10 13:49       ` chengjian (D)
2020-04-14 11:36   ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 21:35     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-15 10:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-14 14:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] sched/fair: Add a few assertions vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] sched: Update core scheduler queue when taking cpu online/offline vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling vpillai
2020-04-14 13:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-16 23:32     ` Tim Chen
2020-04-17 10:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-16  3:39   ` Chen Yu
2020-04-16 19:59     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-17 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-19 15:31       ` Chen Yu
2020-05-21 23:14   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 23:16     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22  2:35     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22  3:44       ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-22 20:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] sched/fair: wrapper for cfs_rq->min_vruntime vpillai
2020-03-04 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] sched/fair: core wide vruntime comparison vpillai
2020-04-14 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15  3:34     ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-15  4:07       ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-15 21:24         ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-17  9:40           ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-20  8:07             ` [PATCH updated] sched/fair: core wide cfs task priority comparison Aaron Lu
2020-04-20 22:26               ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-21  2:51                 ` Aaron Lu
2020-04-24 14:24                   ` [PATCH updated v2] " Aaron Lu
2020-05-06 14:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08  8:44                       ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-08  9:09                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 12:34                           ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-14 13:02                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-14 22:51                               ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-15 10:38                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-15 10:43                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-15 14:24                                   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-16  3:42                               ` Aaron Lu
2020-05-22  9:40                                 ` Aaron Lu
2020-06-08  1:41                               ` Ning, Hongyu
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer vpillai
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] sched: migration changes for core scheduling vpillai
2020-06-12 13:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-12 21:32     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-13  2:25       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-13 18:59         ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-15  2:05           ` Li, Aubrey
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] sched: cgroup tagging interface " vpillai
2020-06-26 15:06   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-03-04 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] sched: Debug bits vpillai
2020-03-04 17:36 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 Tim Chen
2020-03-04 17:42   ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-04-14 14:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15 16:32   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-17 11:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-17 12:35       ` Alexander Graf
2020-04-17 13:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-18  2:25       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-09 14:35   ` Dario Faggioli
     [not found] ` <38805656-2e2f-222a-c083-692f4b113313@linux.intel.com>
2020-05-09  3:39   ` Ning, Hongyu
2020-05-14 20:51     ` FW: " Gruza, Agata
2020-05-10 23:46 ` [PATCH RFC] Add support for core-wide protection of IRQ and softirq Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-11 13:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 14:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-20 22:26 ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-21  4:09   ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface(Internet mail) benbjiang(蒋彪)
2020-05-21 13:49     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21  8:51   ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Add a per-thread core scheduling interface Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-21 13:47     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 20:20       ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-05-22 12:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-22 21:35         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-24 14:00           ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 14:51             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-28 17:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 18:17               ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 18:34                 ` Phil Auld
2020-05-28 18:23               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 18:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-21 20:40     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-21 21:58       ` Jesse Barnes
2020-05-22 16:33         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2020-05-20 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2] Add support for core-wide protection of IRQ and softirq Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-20 22:48 ` [PATCH RFC] sched: Use sched-RCU in core-scheduling balancing logic Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-05-21 22:52   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-22  1:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-25 20:12 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Core scheduling v5 Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-26  1:47   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-26 14:36     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2020-06-26 15:10       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-26 15:12         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-27 16:21         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-30 14:11         ` Phil Auld
2020-06-29 12:33   ` Li, Aubrey
2020-06-29 19:41     ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai

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