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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Olivier Langlois <olivier@trillion01.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"<linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Gladkov <legion@kernel.org>, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: io_uring truncating coredumps
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 06:23:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjCs7XPtNHwzVHK=0D=tZgtdyMGLtoomZB5JeUm7D3JEg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8yi8ajr.fsf_-_@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 8:47 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
> Thinking about it from the perspective of not delivering the wake-ups
> fixing io_uring and coredumps in a non-hacky way looks comparatively
> simple.  The function task_work_add just needs to not wake anything up
> after a process has started dying.
>
> Something like the patch below.

Hmm. Yes, I think this is the right direction.

That said, I think it should not add the work at all, and return
-ESRCH, the exact same way that it does for that work_exited
condition.

Because it's basically the same thing: the task is dead and shouldn't
do more work. In fact, task_work_run() is the thing that sets it to
&work_exited as it sees PF_EXITING, so it feels to me that THAT is
actually the issue here - we react to PF_EXITING too late. We react to
it *after* we've already added the work, and then we do that "no more
work" logic only after we've accepted those late work entries?

So my gut feel is that task_work_add() should just also test PF_EXITING.

And in fact, my gut feel is that PF_EXITING is too late anyway (it
happens after core-dumping, no?)

But I guess that thing may be on purpose, and maybe the act of dumping
core itself wants to do more work, and so that isn't an option?

So I don't think your patch is "right" as-is, and it all worries me,
but yes, I think this area is very much the questionable one.

I think that work stopping and the io_uring shutdown should probably
move earlier in the exit queue, but as mentioned above, maybe the work
addition boundary in particular really wants to be late because the
exit process itself still uses task works? ;(

              Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-18  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08 20:17 [PATCH 00/10] Removal of most do_exit calls Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 01/10] exit/s390: Remove dead reference to do_exit from copy_thread Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-12 17:48   ` Heiko Carstens
2021-12-13 14:50     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05  4:25     ` Al Viro
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 02/10] exit: Add and use make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05  5:01   ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 20:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 21:53       ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 23:34           ` Al Viro
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 03/10] exit: Move oops specific logic from do_exit into make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05  5:48   ` Al Viro
2022-01-06  7:08     ` Al Viro
2022-01-07  3:42     ` Al Viro
2022-01-07 19:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07 18:59     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-17  8:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17 12:15         ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-17 13:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-17 13:24         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-17 13:27           ` [PATCH] microblaze: remove CONFIG_SET_FS Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 13:50             ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 13:52               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-09 14:03                 ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 14:40               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 14:44                 ` Michal Simek
2022-02-09 14:54                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-09 23:31                     ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-11  0:17                       ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-11 16:59                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-11 17:46                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-02-11 20:57                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-02-11 21:10                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-02-11 22:21                                 ` Stafford Horne
2022-02-14  7:41                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14  7:50                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-14 16:20                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 04/10] exit: Stop poorly open coding do_task_dead in make_task_dead Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05  5:58   ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:33     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 05/10] exit: Stop exporting do_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05  6:02   ` Al Viro
2022-01-05 22:36     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 06/10] exit: Implement kthread_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07  2:27   ` Al Viro
2022-01-08 18:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 22:44       ` David Laight
2022-01-10 15:00         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-09  3:27       ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 15:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 07/10] exit: Rename module_put_and_exit to module_put_and_kthread_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 08/10] exit: Rename complete_and_exit to kthread_complete_and_exit Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 09/10] kthread: Ensure struct kthread is present for all kthreads Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-22 18:19   ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-22 18:30     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-22 18:46       ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-22 23:22         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23  0:37           ` Nathan Chancellor
2021-12-23  1:44           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-23  3:34             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23  3:34               ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23  5:19               ` [PATCH] kthread: Generalize pf_io_worker so it can point to struct kthread Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23  5:19                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-23 17:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-23 17:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-07  3:59   ` [PATCH 09/10] kthread: Ensure struct kthread is present for all kthreads Al Viro
2022-01-08 18:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-08 20:25 ` [PATCH 10/10] exit/kthread: Move the exit code for kernel threads into struct kthread Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-07  3:22   ` Al Viro
2021-12-13 22:50 ` [PATCH 0/8] signal: Cleanup of the signal->flags Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:30   ` [PATCH 00/17] exit: Making task exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32     ` [PATCH 01/17] exit: Remove profile_task_exit & profile_munmap Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04  7:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-07  3:48       ` Al Viro
2022-01-08 16:10         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32     ` [PATCH 02/17] exit: Coredumps reach do_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32     ` [PATCH 03/17] exit: Fix the exit_code for wait_task_zombie Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:32     ` [PATCH 04/17] exit: Use the correct exit_code in /proc/<pid>/stat Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 05/17] taskstats: Cleanup the use of task->exit_code Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 06/17] ptrace: Remove second setting of PT_SEIZED in ptrace_attach Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 07/17] ptrace: Remove unused regs argument from ptrace_report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 08/17] ptrace/m68k: Stop open coding ptrace_report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-10 15:26       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-10 16:20         ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 16:25           ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 17:54           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-10 20:37             ` Al Viro
2022-01-10 21:18               ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11  1:33             ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-11 22:42               ` Finn Thain
2022-01-12  0:20                 ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-12  3:32                   ` Finn Thain
2022-01-12  7:54                     ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-12  7:55                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12  8:05                     ` Michael Schmitz
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 09/17] ptrace: Move setting/clearing ptrace_message into ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 10/17] ptrace: Return the signal to continue with from ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 11/17] ptrace: Separate task->ptrace_code out from task->exit_code Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 12/17] signal: Compute the process exit_code in get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 13/17] signal: Make individual tasks exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 14/17] signal: Remove zap_other_threads Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 15/17] signal: Add JOBCTL_WILL_EXIT to mark exiting tasks Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 16/17] signal: Record the exit_code when an exit is scheduled Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-03 21:33     ` [PATCH 17/17] signal: Always set SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT on process exit Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09  0:13     ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 01/13] ptrace: Move ptrace_report_syscall into ptrace.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:19         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 02/13] ptrace/arm: Rename tracehook_report_syscall report_syscall Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:20         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 03/13] ptrace: Create ptrace_report_syscall_{entry,exit} in ptrace.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:26         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 04/13] ptrace: Remove arch_syscall_{enter,exit}_tracehook Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:29         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 05/13] ptrace: Remove tracehook_signal_handler Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:29         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 06/13] task_work: Remove unnecessary include from posix_timers.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:30         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 07/13] task_work: Introduce task_work_pending Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 21:05         ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-09 23:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 23:26             ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-09 22:31         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 08/13] task_work: Call tracehook_notify_signal from get_signal on all architectures Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-10  5:57         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-10 19:04           ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-10 20:00             ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 09/13] task_work: Decouple TIF_NOTIFY_SIGNAL and task_work Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:36         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 10/13] signal: Move set_notify_signal and clear_notify_signal into sched/signal.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:36         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 11/13] resume_user_mode: Remove #ifdef TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME in set_notify_resume Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:39         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 12/13] resume_user_mode: Move to resume_user_mode.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:54         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 16:24       ` [PATCH 13/13] tracehook: Remove tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 22:55         ` Kees Cook
2022-03-09 21:05       ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Jens Axboe
2022-03-15 23:18       ` [PATCH 0/2] ptrace: Making the ptrace changes atomic Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-15 23:21         ` [PATCH 1/2] ptrace: Move setting/clearing ptrace_message into ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 17:46           ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-17 19:10           ` Kees Cook
2022-03-18 14:44             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 17:20               ` Kees Cook
2022-03-15 23:22         ` [PATCH 2/2] ptrace: Return the signal to continue with from ptrace_stop Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 18:08           ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-17 18:31             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 19:43               ` Oleg Nesterov
2022-03-18 14:40             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-17 19:13           ` Kees Cook
2022-03-18 14:52             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-18 17:28               ` Kees Cook
2022-03-28 23:56         ` [GIT PULL] ptrace: Cleanups for v5.18 Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-29  0:03           ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-29  0:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29  0:53             ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-03-29  0:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29  3:37             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-29  4:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29  5:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-03-29  0:35           ` pr-tracker-bot
2022-03-09  0:15     ` [PATCH 00/13] Removing tracehook.h Eric W. Biederman
2022-03-09 20:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-04  6:30   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-04 16:18     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 19:58     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-05 21:39       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-08 18:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 18:15           ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: Have prepare_signal detect coredumps using signal->core_state Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 18:15           ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: Make coredump handling explicit in complete_signal Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11  8:59           ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-11 17:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18 17:30               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-18 17:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18 18:01                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-01-04 18:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-04 19:47     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-08 19:13       ` Heiko Carstens
     [not found]         ` <87ilurwjju.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
     [not found]           ` <87o84juwhg.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
2022-01-10 23:00             ` Olivier Langlois
2022-01-11 17:28               ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 18:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-11 19:19                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-15  0:12                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-15 19:23                       ` Olivier Langlois
2022-01-17 16:09                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-17 18:46                           ` io_uring truncating coredumps Eric W. Biederman
2022-01-18  4:23                             ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2022-01-26 15:06                           ` [PATCH 1/8] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Olivier Langlois
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 2/8] signal: Drop signals received after a fatal signal has been processed Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 3/8] signal: Have the oom killer detect coredumps using signal->core_state Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 4/8] signal: During coredumps set SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT in zap_process Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 5/8] signal: Remove SIGNAL_GROUP_COREDUMP Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 6/8] coredump: Stop setting signal->group_exit_task Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 7/8] signal: Rename group_exit_task group_exec_task Eric W. Biederman
2021-12-13 22:53 ` [PATCH 8/8] signal: Remove the helper signal_group_exit Eric W. Biederman

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