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[209.85.208.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w71sm11240782lff.0.2020.01.15.12.10.48 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f178.google.com with SMTP id a13so19961484ljm.10 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:10:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:990e:: with SMTP id v14mr74215lji.23.1579119048131; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:10:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <157909503552.20155.3030058841911628518.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <157909503552.20155.3030058841911628518.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:10:32 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] pipe: Keyrings, Block and USB notifications [ver #3] To: David Howells Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Casey Schaufler , Stephen Smalley , Nicolas Dichtel , Ian Kent , Christian Brauner , keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-block , LSM List , linux-fsdevel , Linux API , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-block-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org So I no longer hate the implementation, but I do want to see the actual user space users come out of the woodwork and try this out for their use cases. I'd hate to see a new event queue interface that people then can't really use due to it not fulfilling their needs, or can't use for some other reason. We've had a fair number of kernel interfaces that ended up not being used all that much, but had one or two minor users and ended up being nasty long-term maintenance issues.. I don't want this to become yet another such one. Linus From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:10:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] pipe: Keyrings, Block and USB notifications [ver #3] Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: References: <157909503552.20155.3030058841911628518.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <157909503552.20155.3030058841911628518.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: David Howells Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Casey Schaufler , Stephen Smalley , Nicolas Dichtel , Ian Kent , Christian Brauner , keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-block , LSM List , linux-fsdevel , Linux API , Linux Kernel Mailing List So I no longer hate the implementation, but I do want to see the actual user space users come out of the woodwork and try this out for their use cases. I'd hate to see a new event queue interface that people then can't really use due to it not fulfilling their needs, or can't use for some other reason. We've had a fair number of kernel interfaces that ended up not being used all that much, but had one or two minor users and ended up being nasty long-term maintenance issues.. I don't want this to become yet another such one. Linus