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From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Samuel Neves <sneves@dei.uc.pt>,
	Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:45:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHmME9rfCc-Hp08AzeWT8M19Nivs3DY=DnmEQ9pT-qxf+vKiXw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9VamLBv5Ji5AtvugUrAYQYaotLFZZGA=Rt18JUDEaAMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:04 PM Ard Biesheuvel
<ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> > The code still benefits from the review that's gone into OpenSSL. It's
> > not modified in ways that would affect the cryptographic operations
> > being done. It's modified to be suitable for kernel space.
>
> So could we please at least have those changes as a separate patch then?

I'll experiment with a couple ways of trying to communicate with
precision what's been changed from OpenSSL for the next round of
patches.

> > That's interesting. I'll bring this up with AndyP. FWIW, if you think
> > you have a real and compelling claim here, I'd be much more likely to
> > accept a different ChaCha20 implementation than I would be to accept a
> > different Poly1305 implementation. (It's a *lot* harder to screw up
> > ChaCha20 than it is to screw up Poly1305.)
>
> The question is really whether we want different implementations in
> the crypto API and in zinc.

Per earlier in this discussion, I've already authored patches that
replaces the crypto API's implementations with simple calls to Zinc,
so that code isn't duplicated. These will be in v4 and you can comment
on the approach then.

> You are completely missing my point. I am not particularly invested in
> the crypto API, and I share the concerns about its usability. That is
> why I want to make sure that your solution actually results in a net
> improvement for everybody, not just for WireGuard, in a maintainable
> way.

Right, likewise. I've put quite a bit of effort into separating Zinc
into Zinc and not into something part of WireGuard. The motivation for
doing so is a decent amount of call sites all around the kernel that
I'd like to gradually fix up.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-11  1:08 [PATCH net-next v3 00/17] WireGuard: Secure Network Tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/17] asm: simd context helper API Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12  6:14   ` Kevin Easton
2018-09-12 18:10     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13  5:03       ` Kevin Easton
2018-09-13 13:52         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 13:53           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-15 19:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-15 20:01             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 13:14         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/17] zinc: introduce minimal cryptography library Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 10:08   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11 10:08     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11 14:56     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-11 14:56       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-11 21:47       ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 21:47         ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 22:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 23:30           ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-11 23:57             ` David Miller
2018-09-12  0:02               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17  4:09               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17  4:45                 ` David Miller
2018-09-17 14:55                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 14:59                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17  5:07                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 14:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 14:59                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:24                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18 16:06                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-18 16:45                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17  5:26                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-17 14:51                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 15:28                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:06                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 16:17                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 15:31                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:07                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 16:16                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 16:18                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18  0:56                             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-17 15:52                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18  4:21                     ` Herbert Xu
2018-09-18  4:26                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-18 18:53                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-18 20:36                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-19 16:55                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11 22:16         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-11 22:16           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-11 22:18           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 23:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-12  0:01               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12  4:29                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:22     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 22:56       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-12 23:45         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13  5:41           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 14:32             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:42               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 15:58                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-14  6:15                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-14  9:53                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13  6:39           ` Milan Broz
2018-09-13 14:34             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:26             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13 14:18           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:07             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 14:15         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-13 15:04           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-13 15:45             ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2018-09-11 22:08     ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 22:08       ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-12 18:16       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-12 18:19         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-12 18:34           ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-14  6:21             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/17] zinc: ChaCha20 generic C implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/17] zinc: ChaCha20 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/17] zinc: ChaCha20 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  8:22   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11  9:00     ` Samuel Neves
2018-09-11  9:09       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 21:12         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:27           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-11 21:28             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:48           ` Eric Biggers
2018-09-11 22:04             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/17] zinc: ChaCha20 MIPS32r2 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/17] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementation and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:17   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/17] zinc: Poly1305 generic C implementations " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/17] zinc: Poly1305 ARM and ARM64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/17] zinc: Poly1305 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/17] zinc: Poly1305 MIPS32r2 and MIPS64 implementations Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/17] zinc: ChaCha20Poly1305 construction and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/17] zinc: BLAKE2s generic C implementation " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/17] zinc: BLAKE2s x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/17] zinc: Curve25519 generic C implementations and selftest Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/17] zinc: Curve25519 ARM implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/17] zinc: Curve25519 x86_64 implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11  1:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 17/17] net: WireGuard secure network tunnel Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 12:59   ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-11 20:53     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 13:17   ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-11 21:05     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 13:30   ` Andrew Lunn
2018-09-11 21:08     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-09-11 21:55       ` Andrew Lunn

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