From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com ([209.85.210.174]) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U7QoO-0008Sn-3l for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:31:19 +0100 Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u20so979743iag.5 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=YMFKWSsDg9hehHqQFHyE1kpdTdYWvStlTHdm6sVBetg=; b=WsIfMqZTlgmYIUjPIkr3Lqwlo8hnAm7kRmbnYx2WM4Z7gfVQe9LQCDMhuszUqULc7x wwMrBmubObacIVSVGzHSyVf28qYRuJ6TraCmxQ53KeR5jfi990jkfDUXqeh8AxmnSPI9 k5NTT/1JTdt8Sv3K0lnPBZ8WvOp5H7/1UdgGMmOyrJyMYCrjiFIOcvT7OAlbSE806VfZ DJvLErLRl0QDWv/PY2qX0JglEMT/78HgGLKi7/X/Qd9twVhBIMBVHc/BWnX0XSOJvBwy fbAgk4m3qh94NYq9eoN+tl6psyrffPmgNvlOjux/cj3ih4hBaLWE1tzs+QCLcqag3UAu Ebew== X-Received: by 10.50.196.132 with SMTP id im4mr6582494igc.58.1361193307651; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:15:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.85.36 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:14:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20130218102402.GA15710@xiaoyu.lan> From: "Burton, Ross" Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:14:47 +0000 Message-ID: To: Holger Hans Peter Freyther X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmMLQZBdca+AAD87wrItDd4TfzFmQ0RXpgGnFLIX0KMYs2sx0JEARxq3b6vX98yJnONrpjF Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: State of systemd from an integrator point of view X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:31:19 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 18 February 2013 13:10, Burton, Ross wrote: >> * systemd's journald is not suitable for small devices. I think the default >> should be to disable the journald and do not disable the busybox log >> application in the systemd-compat units package. journald is dominated by >> memory allocations and reading procfs over and over again. > > Agreed, although it would be good if the journal could be tuned. IMHO > it's technically great, just young. > > I wonder if we can split out the bulk of the journal binaries into a > separate package, so by default it's disabled and then installing > systemd-journal would enable it. Just noticed that the disabling of syslog isn't working for me, it disables syslog-busybox but there's a syslog symlink to it, which is being started. :) Ross