From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mga12.intel.com ([143.182.124.36] helo=azsmga102.ch.intel.com) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TxGTu-0005h8-I6 for openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:28:27 +0100 Received: from mail-qa0-f72.google.com ([209.85.216.72]) by mga14.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 21 Jan 2013 04:12:36 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f72.google.com with SMTP id d13so11857858qak.11 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=FKQVIEjONi7pIcZM3F2/DSXEKwPJW4gO8fNOsza7a+Q=; b=KZYvBuJ4mfSOXXoMigBpysDvNhvFqVb+w4lKHpwrtKSX+WHQTs4+Re7Apx6gh6pChv UCKIKA9asOIR5WqCGkRteNXEA6g4XoXl6ZTl3Y6A0J4cmYX7X12ARZvz/b5frAdcvyR5 r4DuLnZW2iL3wytwsVecjsSbcB96HRRxMpqHakuyIBfvTMudkLOaFWhAt/5G9mTEUyOj 46B2P74+XwRJtmH4UD6n61Qxr7rGoaBXph0rwwo3p9QsWg4NJ4iuwQ6Ezn7pyCTxHcQA xCDRwHVnwvVdkPMg+yC86PViN8zCdbgitixsvJyA6EMA4XjPNvDIEziz3Fwoyv5x4Q1z KZ+g== X-Received: by 10.220.240.141 with SMTP id la13mr18927722vcb.39.1358770354686; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:12:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.220.240.141 with SMTP id la13mr18927717vcb.39.1358770354627; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:12:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.152.232 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:12:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1358739008.2945.29.camel@jethro.cheepee.homedns.org> References: <1358739008.2945.29.camel@jethro.cheepee.homedns.org> From: "Burton, Ross" Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:12:14 +0000 Message-ID: To: Ciprian Ciubotariu X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlvJDhdcGQMgjyQ+3nCIPLAkXR4c4rHzf34R4VzBidZbp3Y2CRSVtZULLAOKPvi7QvwEtw0yKQEbVCZfHl1Hb3DnxmJTHcCglUfc0+Uy2us5vOkFRx7K9vACYAWiOnDOJtiDAXkwJA291Au9QVJkyToF6mluLON9jWquRIMsku5l1rajoqOW0daMs1BDLxpSzukfRHj Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Initial systemd integration X-BeenThere: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:28:28 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 21 January 2013 03:30, Ciprian Ciubotariu wrote: > However, with oe-core/meta providing a default embedded policy, higher > layers need to remove sysvinit or systemd stuff from base recipes, which is > against bitbake's additive language design (only append/prepend functions, > no -= operator) and against separating concerns. If you don't do a systemd build, you won't get any of the systemd files. Ditto, sysvinit (well, that's the goal - as it was an assumption until now that needs work still). An oe-core without *any* init system will be very cumbersome - every service will need a bbappend to actually work, with the subsequent maintenance costs. Ross