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From: Eugenio Perez Martin <eperezma@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] virtio: introduce virtqueue state as basic facility
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:27:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJaqyWeWwAtQPF23XU0pVjtdjSjQ=SeBeB43-G6qge4s8rOnhA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdadc765-2ede-8eb6-2aff-3defd6e161e5@redhat.com>

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 3:54 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> 在 2021/3/22 下午4:19, Eugenio Perez Martin 写道:
> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 4:47 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> This patch adds new device facility to save and restore virtqueue
> >> state. The virtqueue state is split into two parts:
> >>
> >> - The available state: The state that is used for read the next
> >>    available buffer.
> >> - The used state: The state that is used for make buffer used.
> >>
> >> This will simply the transport specific method implemention. E.g two
> >> le16 could be used instead of a single le32). For split virtqueue, we
> >> only need the available state since the used state is implemented in
> >> the virtqueue itself (the used index).
> >> For packed virtqueue, we need
> >> both the available state and the used state.
> >>
> >> Those states are required to implement live migration support for
> >> virtio device.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>   content.tex | 81 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>   1 file changed, 81 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> >> index 620c0e2..af39111 100644
> >> --- a/content.tex
> >> +++ b/content.tex
> >> @@ -385,6 +385,83 @@ \section{Exporting Objects}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Expo
> >>   types. It is RECOMMENDED that devices generate version 4
> >>   UUIDs as specified by \hyperref[intro:rfc4122]{[RFC4122]}.
> >>
> >> +\section{Virtqueue State}\label{sec:Virtqueues / Virtqueue State}
> >> +
> >> +When VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE is negotiated, the driver can set and
> >> +get the device internal virtqueue state through the following
> >> +fields. The way to access those fields is transport specific.
> >> +
> >> +\subsection{\field{Available State} Field}
> >> +
> >> +The availabe state field is two bytes virtqueue state that is used by
> >> +the device to read for the next available buffer.
> >> +
> >> +When VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is not negotiated, it contains:
> >> +
> >> +\begin{lstlisting}
> >> +le16 last_avail_idx;
> >> +\end{lstlisting}
> >> +
> >> +The \field{last_avail_idx} field is the location where the device read
> >> +for the next index from the virtqueue available ring.
> >> +
> >> +When VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is negotiated, it contains:
> >> +
> >> +\begin{lstlisting}
> >> +le16 {
> >> +  last_avail_idx : 15;
> >> +  last_avail_wrap_counter : 1;
> >> +};
> >> +\end{lstlisting}
> >> +
> >> +The \field{last_avail_idx} field is the location where the device read
> >> +for the next descriptor from the virtqueue descriptor ring.
> >> +
> >> +The \field{last_avail_wrap_counter} field is the last driver ring wrap
> >> +counter that is observed by the device.
> >> +
> >> +See also \ref{sec:Packed Virtqueues / Driver and Device Ring Wrap Counters}.
> >> +
> >> +\subsection{\field{Used State} Field}
> >> +
> >> +The availabe state field is two bytes virtqueue state that is used by
> >> +the device to make buffer used.
> >> +
> >> +When VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is negotiated, the used state contains:
> >> +
> >> +\begin{lstlisting}
> >> +le16 {
> >> +  used_idx : 15;
> >> +  used_wrap_counter : 1;
> >> +};
> >> +\end{lstlisting}
> >> +
> >> +The \field{used_idx} field is the location where the device write next
> >> +used descriptor to the descriptor ring.
> >> +
> >> +The \field{used_wrap_counter} field is the wrap counter that is used
> >> +by the device.
> >> +
> >> +The used state is unnecessary when VIRTIO_RING_F_PACKED is not
> >> +negotiated.
> > Maybe we could be more specific with "unnecessary"? Either to say:
> > 1) "For split virtqueue the device/driver must ignore this field at
> > start/recover state and use used_idx in the used ring.", so use of
> > this field is totally unspecified.
>
>
> RIght, this could be added as normative part.
>
> An interesting part is the timing of the read, the current semantics
> depends on reset command to stop the device (to avoid introduing new
> status).
>
> So in order to get the state, driver needs:
>
> 1) reset the device
> 2) read the avail and used states
>
> Technically, after step 1, driver doesn't know whether nor not it's a
> split virtqueue.
>
> For write, it should be fine since we mandate it can only be done after
> FEATURE_OK so driver know it's a split or not.
>
> So how about something like in the driver normative:
>
> To get the virtqueue state, the driver MUST remember the queue format
> that is used and read the virtqueue state accordingly after resetting
> the device. E.g if the split virtqueue is used before resetting the
> device, the driver MUST NOT acces used state after restting the device.
>
> To write the virtqueue state, the driver MUST NOT write to the used
> state if VIRTIO_F_RING_PACKED is not negotiated.
>

Right, I'm not sure if it will have a use case in the future but I
find it better to explicitly state that.

Thanks!

> Thanks
>
>
> > 2) "For split virtqueue, the device/driver must prefer to get/set
> > state from virtqueue's used ring in case of discrepancy with this
> > value".
> >
> > I prefer the former so there is only one place to set/retrieve it, but
> > something like this would avoid confusion in my opinion. I find it
> > equally convenient to prefer the virtqueue memory or the
> > transport-specific used state field, though.
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-22  3:47 [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/2] Introduce VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Jason Wang
2021-03-22  3:47 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 1/2] virtio: introduce virtqueue state as basic facility Jason Wang
2021-03-22  8:19   ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-03-23  2:54     ` Jason Wang
2021-03-23  9:27       ` Eugenio Perez Martin [this message]
2021-03-23 10:27   ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-24  8:15     ` Jason Wang
2021-03-24  9:35       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-25  2:38         ` Jason Wang
2021-03-24  9:38       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-25  2:42         ` Jason Wang
2021-03-25  9:59           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-22  3:47 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 2/2] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Jason Wang
2021-03-23 10:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-23 10:40 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/2] Introduce VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-24  7:05   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-24 10:05     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-03-25  2:57       ` Jason Wang
2021-03-25 10:03         ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/2] Introduce VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE\\ Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-07-06  4:33 [PATCH V2 0/2] Vitqueue State Synchronization Jason Wang
2021-07-06  4:33 ` [PATCH V2 1/2] virtio: introduce virtqueue state as basic facility Jason Wang
2021-07-06  9:32   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-06 17:09     ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-07-06 19:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-06 23:49         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-07-07  2:50           ` Jason Wang
2021-07-07 12:03             ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-07-07 12:11               ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2021-07-06 12:27   ` Cornelia Huck

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