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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:49:59 +0300
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Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] Migration to Batman
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As we did  L2 Mesh with AWDS for some years and are switching to
batman-adv at the moment here my 2c.

a) Networks on L2 needs some more insight because wireless mesh isn't
just like ethernet cable, even if it looks like.
b) "leaking" subnets must be taken care of. Often the L3 network works
fine without exactly knowing what happening "down below" and
astonishingly one can see packets flowing around and been transported
with L2 all over the mesh.
c) VLAN on L2 helps alot in design of the network topoly ( VLAN over
WIFI was no problem with AWDS - we will test this with batman-adv)

regards
3zl


2012/4/12 Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 07:12:08PM +0200, Mitar wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>> > Or, if you are in a transition phase, and don't mind your head
>> > exploding, run olsr, babel, etc, on top of BATMAN to gateway between
>> > the L2 meshes!
>>
>> Can you please explain a bit more what are you thinking here?
>
> Well, your infrastructure already speaks olsr, babel, or what every L3
> mesh protocol you have. It knows how to advertise additional
> routes. So make one or more of your BATMAN nodes L2 mesh also a L3
> mesh node. These L3 mesh nodes will see each other over the mesh, and
> they will see other L3 mesh nodes over what every network technology
> you have between L2 meshes. These L3 mesh nodes should also be the
> default router for the devices in the L2 mesh. The L2 mesh devices
> will send there packets to a L3 mesh node. It will then route it,
> maybe back over the mesh, or maybe over an inter mesh links, to where
> ever it needs to go. If ICMP redirect works on your L2 and L3 nodes,
> it should add host routes to the L2 nodes when they use the wrong
> gateway out of the L2 mesh.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Andrew