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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
Cc: Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	 Ayan Kumar Halder <ayan.kumar.halder@xilinx.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefanos@xilinx.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: Support Cortex-R platform(s)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 23:17:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3uc1FPxPgoo5k-11jj9b8qNAVOPTm038GFtw2ecc0=Qw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220630083641.21835-1-vladimir.murzin@arm.com>

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 10:36 AM Vladimir Murzin
<vladimir.murzin@arm.com> wrote:
>
> I've been running Linux on Cortex-R cores with downstream patches for
> several years already. There are few reasons why we have not got any
> real platform supporting Cortex-R cores so far:
> 1) lack of interest
> 2) lack of easily available platforms
> 3) missing Kconfig bits
>
> During these years I've been receiving questions (mostly in private)
> about running Linux with Cortex-R cores. Use cases vary, but mostly
> fall under "we know Linux and do not want yet another RTOS", also
> people not always care about real-time features of R-class cores and
> see it as an upgrade from M-class cores.
>
> Sometime ago MPS3 platform got support for FPGA image [1] with
> Cortex-R52 cores where Linux can live comfortably.
>
> This patchset addresses #3 and brings support for MPS3 platform
> featuring Cortex-R52

The patches look ok to me, if we want to support Cortex-R, this
is clearly how it should be done.

My main concern is the same as the one we discussed before:
are there actually use cases for which running Linux con Cortex-R
is the right thing to do?

While it's clearly an awesome hack that this actually works, I don't
really want to encourage developers to ship products with Linux
on Cortex-R unless there is at least one sensible use case for it.

The Cortex-M support is still holding up for the moment, but I
don't think there have been any new deployments in years
(there are a few new hobbyist projects like the imxrt and the
stm32 art pi), and I expect that we will want to completely remove
nommu support at some point.

         Arnd

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-30 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-30  8:36 [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: Support Cortex-R platform(s) Vladimir Murzin
2022-06-30  8:36 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] ARM: Introduce ARM_SINGLE_ARMV7R for ARMv7-R platforms Vladimir Murzin
2022-06-30  9:22   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-01  9:22     ` Vladimir Murzin
2022-07-01 11:24       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-06-30  8:36 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] ARM: mps2: Split into ARCH/MACH options Vladimir Murzin
2022-06-30  8:36 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] ARM: Introduce MPS3 AN536 Vladimir Murzin
2022-06-30 20:36   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-07-01  9:06     ` Vladimir Murzin
2022-06-30 21:17 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2022-07-01  9:39   ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] ARM: Support Cortex-R platform(s) Vladimir Murzin
2022-07-01 14:18     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-01 14:38       ` Vladimir Murzin
2022-07-12  8:33 ` Vladimir Murzin
2022-07-12  9:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-07-12 20:44     ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-08-01 15:11       ` Vladimir Murzin

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